Gustaf Lagerbielke

He's no worse than of the other CB's outwith CCV. Puzzling what's going on.

Wonder if Rodgers didn't want him and he's not playing out of spite?

 

When he was playing he was levels below Scales and Welsh, and levels below what we’ve seen from Nawrocki who is firmly 4th from what we’ve seen off guys this season, CCV, Scales then Welsh, Rocki then Lager.

I think he’d be a decent backs to the wall sorta defender looking at him tbf, but a high line, defending the room in behind isolated CB the way we tend to play, just not that guys game. He’s painfully slow for one.

Looking at his highlights before he was here think his passing must be much better than what we’d seen off of him but even that looked timid, inconsistent and poor.

 

I thought he looked awful in all honesty.

 

I've always liked him. Think him, oh and holm have been harshly treated

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Rocki looked better than Welsh and is better than Welsh and arguably Scales Rocki and CCV should be the 2 starting going forward if both fit

 

Yeah, this. He obviously has something about him in the right system but he is painful as a high-line centre half in a team that tries to dominate the ball and build from the back. Not his fault, just terrible scouting. I'm sure he'll make a good career for himself elsewhere.

 

Same, I was just being more diplomatic about it, because he really doesn’t suit the way we want to play. So we’ll not see what he can do, when in a team that suits his strengths. I thought even without his winner against Feyernoord, when we were deeper, defending the box more is the best cameo we’ve seen from him. So looks more his style that.

 

Rocki did his first 2 games next to CCV, and ok when he came back but rash and uncomfortable, and then against Aberdeen he should have seen red for one and secondly, it was a * holocaust of a performance, he went to absolute *.

When Welsh came back in we looked a lot better with him and Scales, but we are desperately, * desperately needing CCV. And by far the guy who deserves to be next to him is Scales. I’m beating the same drum with this constantly but he’s kept our backline held together with so many chops and changes, and now he needs the calm, collected leader next to him to take on that responsibility. Because he’s stood up and done that this year, because someone needed to.

 

Think at times like this it's tempting to romanticise that we have an answering staring us in the face. In my opinion, the idea that lagerbielke will be the solution to our defensive problems is just that, a romantic idea. Lagerbielke has looked ok when playing but nothing more than ok, I certainly don't think he is any way shape or form head and shoulders above Scales or Welsh.

I do feel for him though, plays what, 5 games then seemingly deemed surplus to requirements. Not his fault our scouting department got it wrong. My only fear is that he will now be an unused player for quite sometimes. Regardless of injuries, we should have loaned him out when his stock was a bit higher after the CL goal. If he had a good season in Italy we could have decided then to cash in or try again.

Honestly of the belief if there is a defender in our ranks that might be better than we currently believe then it is probably Nawrocki. Whether he is good enough, also remains to be seen

 

Rumour is the problem being no scouting, just Starfelt’s agent recommending a good replacement.

He has a good reputation, won an award in Sweden for defender of the league, was being called up and putting in good performances whilst on our bench for Sweden. It feels like we’ve looked at him, seen that he was rated highly and an up and comer and signed him, for a good fee for us, without looking at if he’s what we need or if he could adapt to a style we would need.

Not the first time for that *, pre-Ange we done it, then we had Ange’s knowledge of different markets and contacts, now we’re back to pre-Ange.

There was talk about more Recruitment Managers and Scout Managers on our books than actual scouts, I was thinking surely not it’s been 4/5 years to sort out Congerton obliterating that department… but really, evidence points towards the rumours being more believable

 

It's clear he doesn't like him, for me Rodgers 100% tried to throw him under the bus in that Feyenoord game.

Feyenoord were playing well at the time, Phillips had been playing all the time going into that game and with 20 minutes to go or that he put Lagerbielke on instead of Phillips probably thinking we'd be beat and he'd cast him aside and didn't want Phillips to get the blame.

* came on, defended fine and scored a winner then he binned him from the bench the next game and kept Phillips on the bench

 

He looked poor but hasn't been given a fair crack of the whip at all. I can't understand why given our injury crises at CB this season. Rodgers' stubbornness most likely.

 

If he stuck with him regardless of what he was showing when he was playing, it’d be labelled Rodgers stubborness that he was.

Rodgers signed him, if he was an answer to defensive issues then BR looks better by having signed him, sticking by his rocky start and playing him into being an answer at the back.

Dropping him, trying to point him but for fresh injury problems keeping him here last minute, and not playing him when he’s not shown to us when he’s played that he’s any good, and clearly not shown BR in training that he is, and being treated as such - it’s the opposite of stubborn, it’s decisive, and raises awkward questions about why he’s been signed for a fair bit of money for our standards in the first place.

Rodgers I think would much rather he was class, the answer for us and he wouldn’t need to bomb out a guy he just signed.

 

He really hasn't, at all. Seen comments saying that but it is serious grasping at straws

Scales has had a dip and Welsh had a very poor last game, but Nowrocki has shown virtually nothing other than a tendency to be our most injury prone CB (serious competition there too) and possibly looks to not want to be here too.

We do need better, but Nowrocki is definitely 4th choice at present on merit.

 

Spot on. Fans do it all the time. Folk were saying it about O'Dea on here, when he couldn't get a game ahead of McManus and Caldwell.

 

Rumour I heard was that Rodgers thinks he's far too slow.

 

He's painfully slow and been * poor for us overall..

Never a Celtic centre half..

 

If true, one of the only thing’s I’ll be 100% in agreement with him on this season.

It’s also one of the easiest things to definitively measure and judge by scouting a player. Fans can subscribe to websites that track data about players that includes things about sprint speed over 5m/10m/100m.

We spent millions of pounds, and a fair wage, without knowing some very basic facts about what we were dishing it out on. It was rumoured already, Starfelt’s agent brought him up as an option and he wasn’t actually scouted really.

Something I’ve been adamantly refusing to believe all season, but the more wee rumours and snippets that come out as the year goes on, the more it points towards that being 100% factual.

 

All of our CB-s bar CCV are slow. Perhaps the D-line should be pushed back? Rodgers should have taken a look at Lagerbielke before approving the signing, and now that it's late, he could have adapted. But noooo, his ego would cry.