Gustaf Lagerbielke

Lagerbeaky we hardly knew ye

 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course, but throwing out the baby with the bath water is not a solution, especially if you've not even got your facts straight. Does that mean Rodgers as well? After all, he as manager was part of the decision also - including the 5 years term. Perhaps BR was not expecting Lagerbielke to be an instant fixture in the starting XI so soon, but to have signed to that length a deal suggests that he did at least see Lagerbielke in his future plans.

 

Reports in Swedish press were pretty clear that Starfelt's agent was involved in the deal. If anything it's actually worse that he's not Lagerbielke's agent. Bcoz essentially 2 Swedish agents have got together to scratch each other's back. Starfelts agent gets his client a move and he gets a cut while his mate gets his player a move and a cut.

Given that he's being punted so soon and that he doesn't fit the style of play absolutely nothing suggests he was a player we had scouted. He's simply a player that fell into the lap and our incompetent recruitment department lapped it up.

And if you are basing the length of his contract on the level of faith we have in him or his ability. We gave James Mccarthy a 4 year deal and also gave a 5 year deal to a * from the Korean 2nd division who also looks likey to leave this window having never played a minute of competitive football for us. So I wouldnt say thats the best way to judge anything

 

Rodgers has distanced himself from recruitment almost from day one.

Our recruitment over last 18 months since Lawwell Jr arrived has been nowhere near good enough. Lagerbielke is just the latest in a long list of poor signings....all signed to lengthy deals.

 

Lagerbielke won the 2023 Swedish Defender of the year in the Allvenskan.

It's not like he was a completely obscure figure going completely unnoticed prior to Celtic signing him. BR would've had a pretty decent idea of what he was getting, or at least what he was anticipating would be getting. And fwiw, oif the links for Lagerbielke to move elsewhere, they have been on loan terms, so it is not about there is no future for him at Celtic, but getting routine game time here as things stand is unlikely.

Indeed, I made the point back in September, it is very possible that he is the sort of guy that needs to feel comfortably part of the team in order to get the best out of him, rather than the feel as though someone is breathing down his neck for his spot, or indeed, the feel of simply being a place-holder. Different players need different motivations and perhaps this is the case with this guy also. At the time he was in the team and the pecking order ahead of Scales. Scales grabbed his opportunity but it's not like that was overnight. He went on loan and improved. Ajer went on loan and improved. So, why can that not also be a progressive step for Lagerbielke also?

 

Doesn’t look good on whoever signed him if we’re trying to punt him after 6 months

 

Bcoz loan spells don't improve pace.

A defender with his lack of pace will never make it in a brendan rodgers team. He can't play in a team that plays a high line.

He's going on loan bcoz absolutely no one is gonna * £3m on him based on the last 5 months. We are probably going to have to loan him out in hope he does well and we can then try and get our money back in the summer.

And again, if someone has actually scouted him and thought that he'd be a good fit for the way we play then they should be sacked

 

The laughs when he comes back from his loan a year from now, wins POTY his first full year back, takes over as captain in his second, captains us to a Europa League/quadruple in his third and then is sold to Grimsby for £40 million (that being the going rate for a defender for a League 2 club by then)....

 

Ah................Jacynta.

She's one of my favorite Celtic players of all time.

She was * awesome that lassie

 

Whatever the details are on why and who made the decision to sign Lagerbielke it certainly is not a good look when we are looking like we will off load him just 6 months later if we can strike a deal.
But clearly Rodgers does not rate him highly so best for him and Celtic if we can find a buyer this month and hopefully recoup what we paid for him.

 

I do find it a bit mental that we're getting rid this early. He hasn't been that bad. We've barely seen him.

Can only imagine we're getting another CB in unless Rodgers is happy with CCV, Scales, Welsh and Nawrocki. Looking at it like that though, it doesn't really breed confidence does it?

CCV is out more than in these days, Welsh is inconsistent and had his own injury problems, and it's still too early to tell whether Nawrocki is good enough. Scales has been excellent but it remains to be seen whether his form is just a purple patch as well. It all feels unnecessarily risky.

A damning indictment on the recruitment set up (and Rodgers) nonetheless.

 

Seriously, I don't see why people are getting in a major twist about this, and him potentially going out on loan.

For all we know when he was first signed, it could've been with the intention of sending him out on loan for the entire seaosn, but because of CCV, Nawrocki and Welsh all going down injured in the space of about 8-10 days and would all be out as the window closed, it became a matter of necessity to keep him at Lennoxtown. It could also have been that had none of them got injured that Scales may've been the one that was transferred off to Aberdeen again, there is no certainty of it, but losing those 3 guys that close to the window closing meant that all bets were off, and whatever the plan had been prior to signing Lagerbielke, the situation was different by the time Septermber 1 rolled around, less than 2 weeks later.

 

Loan move to Italy could be the making of him. Get him back in the summer and see how he is.

 

On the other hand....it frees up wages and allows more money for a transfer fee.

If the guy is not going to make it. Or is unhappy. Then cut our loses and move on.

He could never get the near the playing squad and still be sitting on a fat * contract like James McCarthy

 

A loan is nothing but a good thing. Let him get that experience and show what he can do.

 

People on this forum usually suggest loans for players when they are struggling for game time. Not sure what the fuss is here.

If he's unlikely to play in the next few months him playing elsewhere is ideal.

 

As has been mentioned here many times, he was voted defender of the year in Sweden. He´s starting to make his way in to the national side. I´ve followed him since he came through, he´s widely regarded in Sweden as one of the best defensive talents in recent years.

A loan deal at this point is ideal, both for him and Celtic. He needs gametime in order to be in contention for the national side. To sell him at this point would be madness, for both financial and sporting reasons.

 

I’ve been surprised so many people wanted him punted to be honest.

I’m not his biggest fan or anything but the people that want rid seem really convinced.

Not knocking that opinion, just felt it was a bit unusual for so many to be so sure so quickly.

 

He’s not done anything wrong. We should give him a chance. We’ve not seen him enough.

Except Rodgers and his staff who have seen him every day in training for 6 month and have noticed in passing by that he’s * at football.

Another catastrophic blunder. Boy is absolutely nowhere near it.

Couldn’t think of anything worse than have him play a run of games in our defence to try and prove he’s not *.

 

I think it's that he's obviously not rated by the manager. He was picked behind Phillips and Welsh. If he goes we could possibly get someone else in who is an improvement on Scales and Welsh. As 2 CBs are injured, I don't think he should be going until we get a replacement in though. If we have no CBs lined up then better off waiting until the summer.