Good to see the fans clapping before the match

If you understand where they are coming from why the * did you call them a disgrace or something like that... the protest was carried out as calmly as it possibly could have. Protesting is one of the fundamental rights of the Western World... I don't give a * what people protest about as long as they do it... it's a way to know our Democracy works.

As long as they aren't being offensive to people, like chanting IRA or whatever, there really is no moral high ground you can take against them... So just be happy they behaved themselves and try to empathize more with where they are coming from and understand that it isn't poppy wearing as a whole they disagree with, but the fact that they, and the players apparently, were given no choice in the matter.

And your argument that selective poppy wearing would have disgraced our club holds no water because there is nothing in the papers about McCarthy or Motherwell.

 

And the world doesn't need attitudes like yours. Some things are bigger than Celtic.

 

I called the protesters a disgrace, because it is.

handing back your season ticket because the players wore a poppy on their kit, is just embarrassing in my eyes.

stop getting behind the team on match days, because of that ffs, its ludicrous.

 

Some things are bigger than Celtic, but are completely unrelated to Celtic and as such should be kept out... whether that's the IRA singing that you support or the poppy wearing that Messi supports. We have an Irish heritage and songs like FoA to reflect that but we are hardly a militant club.

The sooner everybody from both sides understands that they better off we'd be.

 

the irish or the scottish who are unhappy dont have to fall into line,they just have to respect the fact that they are a minority,and they are,there is no getting around that,,,,on saturday there was a socialist newspaper being sold outside the ground and a guy said to one of them."flogging a dead horse there mate".because most of the headlines were a bit cloud cuckoo,the seller gave the guy dogs abuse,filth,just for not agreeing with him,ive had the same when i object to some of the stuff sold outside,and im there wth two small kids,its us,the majority who are sometimes intimidated and bullied by the vocal minority,their logic is thus"i shout loudest therefore i must be right"ehm no!!!!

 

The IRA is not one of those things.

 

Because I asked the questions first and you only replied with more questions.

 

I don't really support the poppy wearing as such, because tbh with you, I couldn't give a * about the poppies.

I just strongly disagree with protesting about wearing them.

 

I would almost always agree with you that protesting in Celtic Park about anything is a unnecessary, because it is not the right place to do that... however, they are just showing the other side to what bringing politics into football is. If Reid wants to politicize a game, they will too. HE STARTED IT, not them. So as I said, you have absolutely no moral high ground against them. I understand your anger because you are in disagreement, but you have to put that anger aside to understand why they did it.

And as many things in life, it's not the act of wearing the poppy it's what it symbolizes. You need to understand and respect other people's views when they aren't belligerent, even when they don't agree with you.

 

john reid is doing a good job of draging the club through the muck all on his own the * * wasnt this club set up for all no matter what back ground but john reid is closing the the door on people who dont share his views the best thing they could do is get rid of him theres a big divide starting to form in the fans and hes laughing at it,and the stewards who r taking peoples names for having tricolours should be ashamed of themselves

 

But for the most part, these are the same people who will be singing the IRA songs at Hamilton next week, that's what gets me.

 

Quick question, why is acceptable for people to call John Reid a *, and tell him to GTF.

but when people say it about Strachan, threads get closed and the world stops ?

 

i would have had more respect for them if they had stayed outside and not came back in,lets face it,its irish hyper nationalism we are talking about here,i know two current soldiers personally,both in afghanisan,both snipers,and both celtic daft,are they less celtic supporting because they are in the british army,its the "we are right and you are wrong" attitude that the green brigade have,as i have said elsewhere,i tried to enter into a discussion on their website when that woman was spouting in the press about rebel songs,tried to discuss it with them and they banned me,hardly democratic,more fascist i would say,no dissension will be tolerated.dissent by all means,just dont do it inside the ground its not right

 

I'm sorry, but falling in line is not protesting, so you contradicted yourself there. I can't, I really can't, believe that you said "they just have to respect the fact that they are a minority." Ahh, yes, the old minorities opinions don't matter because there are less of them.

And just because apparently you still haven't read any of my posts, I'm completely against giving people abuse simply for having a different opinion. I was against it when MuttCutts said the protestors were a disgrace and I'm against the socialist guy, too. And if you'd clarify on how you feel intimidated that would make arguing a lot easier. If it's because they simply sing louder than you, then sing louder... and if it's because they are singing IRA * then I am completely against that as well. (I really think that's like the 5th time I've stated that)

 

I think this has now run it's course. I was looking for answers from those who were happy that our club enforced an SPL directive for all players in the SPL to wear poppies on their jerseys on the remembrance weekend. I have asked questions and only received a few straight answers. Most people just either ignored the questions or replied with other questions.
If nothing new is forthcoming in this thread I'm going to suggest the thread is closed.
I'm not just gonna close it because I still hope someone adds something worthwhile to it.
I do think the subject should be debated, but it has gone round in circles a few times and looks like it has just about run it's course.

 

Please read my posts... if you had read my posts you'd understand that normally I am against bringing politics in to CP... the only saving grace for the protestors is the fact that Reid brought it in to begin with. You can't expect people to not respond if someone does something they don't agree with. Protesting is the only way they can respond without being morally wrong, like singing IRA * would be wrong.

Please actually understand what my argument is before you post... if you need me to clarify ask me specifically what you are unsure on... don't just assume I'm pro IRA, or that I don't think you are a legitimate Celtic fan because you are in the military (I might enlist soon and I come from a long lineage dating back to the Tyrone Rebellion in the 1500s of military men). I have respect for you, I just wish you'd respect that people are disagreeing quietly... there's no better thing in a democracy than a quiet, well behaved protest. You guys are taking this for granted.

 

Careful there, last time I raised the issue of the mods closing threads (without being offensive) I was banned.

 

I completely agree that that * is wrong. BUT, just because they've been wrong before doesn't make their current message less valid, in my eyes. The fact that they managed to do this peacefully actually tells me that maybe they understand that spouting off about the IRA isn't the proper way to get things done... and that some good old fashioned civil disobedience is the way to go.

 

To be fair it's only been about 5 pages of real discussion... people just didn't read the thread and so we had to argue the same thing over and over. The last two pages have been just about the only time we've broken away from that (thank *).