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Glenn Loovens set to return

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Markybhoy, Apr 22, 2010.

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He is absolutely pish. His debut against Falkirk, he was battered by Higdon all game.

This season against Rangers at Ibrox..........he not only let Kenny Miller in once, but TWICE.

I hope someone is stupid enough to come in for him in the summer. Why people moaned about McManus and Caldwell, and wanted them to leave, but nothing was said about Glenda, I will never know

samson81, Apr 22, 2010

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jcwelsh said: ↑

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He has the edacity to come out after a defeat and say things like the lads where unlucky tonight knowing full well he was the culprit for the defeat with the mistakes he just made on the park.
I am all for self belief but I think he goes well beyond licking his own *.
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You ask any forwards who has player there football in Scotland over the last 10 years who they most feared when facing Celtic and the over whelming answer would be big Bobo. Now that is not an opinion, that’s a fact.
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I am getting very frustrated with a large section of our Celtic fans who think they know what they are talking about. I was reading a post a couple of weeks ago going on about a player who they thought was great and wanted him back and a reply was talking about having the memory of a gold fish.
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I am beginning to wonder if this can be said of a vast amount of people on this forum, I know we all have different opinions, but sometimes I wonder if people are just following the bandwagon or just trying to wind us up.
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I can only remember 1 o.g., and that was against Arsenal. This guy won 2 league titles in a row. The defence started to * up when Loovens was brought in. Caldwell should have stayed, and that big dutch * should have been sold

samson81, Apr 22, 2010

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Not a fan.

He was out muscled by kenny "tweaky" miller.

Frank_the_bhoy, Apr 22, 2010

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Frank_the_bhoy said: ↑

Not a fan.

He was out muscled by kenny "tweaky" miller.
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samson81, Apr 22, 2010

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samson81 said: ↑

I can only remember 1 o.g., and that was against Arsenal. This guy won 2 league titles in a row. The defence started to * up when Loovens was brought in. Caldwell should have stayed, and that big dutch * should have been sold
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<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="ProgId" content="Word.Document"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 11"><meta name="Originator" content="Microsoft Word 11"><link rel="File-List" href="file:///C:%5CUsers%5CNicola%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CTemp%5Cmsohtml1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml"><style>  </style> What about benfica when he put us down 2 - 0 in the first 10 minutes with an own goal then a wayward header over the keeper to give Gomes and easy tap in.

What about Aalborg when he scored to let them beat us 2-1.

What about Barcelona when he passed the ball to Ronidinho who gave it to Tiery Henry who toyed with him before scoring by Boruc.

What about his displays for Scotland recently

Then there is the o.g. he scores for Wigan to knock them out of the cup.

I could go on and on with the ones that he got lucky with.

I bet you would find it hard to find a players who you think is not as good as him that has had a many gaffs as him?

jcwelsh, Apr 22, 2010

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jcwelsh said: ↑

<META name=ProgId content=Word.Document><META name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11"><META name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 11"><LINK rel=File-List href="file:///C:%5CUsers%5CNicola%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CTemp%5Cmsohtml1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml"><STYLE>  </STYLE> it is just opinions, I challenge you with yours though as Caldwell was crap and still is, he continues to makes mistakes with Wigan and will continue to do so when played. The way he sticks his arm in the air as if that’s where he is putting the ball bugged me, the a mount of own goals he scores, the stupid passes out of defence that lead to goals.
He has the edacity to come out after a defeat and say things like the lads where unlucky tonight knowing full well he was the culprit for the defeat with the mistakes he just made on the park.
I am all for self belief but I think he goes well beyond licking his own *.
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You ask any forwards who has player there football in Scotland over the last 10 years who they most feared when facing Celtic and the over whelming answer would be big Bobo. Now that is not an opinion, that’s a fact.
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I am getting very frustrated with a large section of our Celtic fans who think they know what they are talking about. I was reading a post a couple of weeks ago going on about a player who they thought was great and wanted him back and a reply was talking about having the memory of a gold fish.
<o></o>
I am beginning to wonder if this can be said of a vast amount of people on this forum, I know we all have different opinions, but sometimes I wonder if people are just following the bandwagon or just trying to wind us up.
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I know it's all opinions but Bobo Balde during Strachans reign must've had a hand full of games so to say he was better during that time would be ludicrous. I'm also not going to accept that McManus, Loovens, O'Dea or anyone else during Strachan/Mowbrays time was better than Caldwell. There is a reason McManus is in the Championship and Caldwell in the Premiership. Didn't mention Caldwell sticking Torres in his pocket.

I've always accepted Caldwell wasn't/isn't a fantastic player but trying to make out he wasn't our best defender is deluded.

(and yes I accept everything is opinions but if someone came out and said Cervi is a better player than Boruc, of course they are entitled to that opinion but there is almost nothing to back it up.)

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wouldnt play him. rather keep it the way it is now hee haw now for us to go for so whats the point?

alsybhoy, Apr 22, 2010

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I know it's all opinions but Bobo Balde during Strachans reign must've had a hand full of games so to say he was better during that time would be ludicrous. I'm also not going to accept that McManus, Loovens, O'Dea or anyone else during Strachan/Mowbrays time was better than Caldwell. There is a reason McManus is in the Championship and Caldwell in the Premiership. Didn't mention Caldwell sticking Torres in his pocket.

I've always accepted Caldwell wasn't/isn't a fantastic player but trying to make out he wasn't our best defender is deluded.

(and yes I accept everything is opinions but if someone came out and said Cervi is a better player than Boruc, of course they are entitled to that opinion but there is almost nothing to back it up.)
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I don't think I am deluded my friend. Caldwell has made more gaffs than any other defender I know in the last five years, you just have to take a look at the above post of mine to name a few.

jcwelsh, Apr 22, 2010

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Aye but nobodies compared him to Bobo and if we're going to go farther and farther back then Valgaeran, MjAllby, Stubbs... there are countless who are better.

But when he was at this club he was our best defender. I don't think there's shame in getting caught out against Barca or an unlucky deflection./rebound against Aalborg. One thing you can say is he never shirked.

Sure he made gaffs (who hasn't) but he was still twice the centre-back of anything we had and his loss at Christmas this year was one of the major contributing factors to throwing away the league. In fact the fall from grace was pretty much immediately from when we lost Caldwell and Robson.

McManus and O'Dea are/have struggled in the Championship where as Caldwell has picked up at least 1 MOTM performance in the Premiership. I think those 3 players have found their respective level.

mmmikey, Apr 22, 2010

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i never understood all the bashers of caldwell, seemed like they wanted him to make a mistake. he won player of the year last year for a reason.

on topic loovens is better than the 2 that are playing at the moment.

MartyC, Apr 22, 2010

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When fit, Loovens is our best centre back in my opinion.

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hes better than the two that are playing right now. when hes played with the right partner i think hes good. he just cant play next to mcmanus, every bad game ive seen from loovens he played with mcmanus

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jcwelsh said: ↑

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What about Aalborg when he scored to let them beat us 2-1.

What about Barcelona when he passed the ball to Ronidinho who gave it to Tiery Henry who toyed with him before scoring by Boruc.

What about his displays for Scotland recently

Then there is the o.g. he scores for Wigan to knock them out of the cup.

I could go on and on with the ones that he got lucky with.

I bet you would find it hard to find a players who you think is not as good as him that has had a many gaffs as him?[/QUOTE]

And I bet you, that you would find it hard to find a centre half that has scored the winner against France, and won 2 consecutive league titles
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glad to hear it

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the thing is you never know wis loovens is going to do next he is just like samaras he has 7-10 * games then has 1 good 1 give him his jew he had a better season last season sell his asap
DazMcD, Apr 22, 2010

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Oh no .................With him being out for a long time,it would be a gamble playing him on a game like this.i dont like this guy and to tell you the truth any game he plays is a gamble

if he does just hope he's up for it or the D.U front line will tear him apart

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I rate him. Put it this way, from what we have seen of each centre half he is our best. Thompson is still very raw, O'Dea isn't good enough, Hooiveld hasn't really played same as Rogne (who is also still a kid).

I feel safer with Loovens at the back then any of the other 4.

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Hammer said: ↑

I rate him. Put it this way, from what we have seen of each centre half he is our best. Thompson is still very raw, O'Dea isn't good enough, Hooiveld hasn't really played same as Rogne (who is also still a kid).

I feel safer with Loovens at the back then any of the other 4.
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i dont mate lol! if he can get * slapped of a runt like kenny misser? then things are bad there at cp!

alsybhoy, Apr 22, 2010

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Thing is though Alsy, O'Dea gets bitched off every centre forward he faces and Thompson is slower than my maw. Things are that bad

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Thing is though Alsy, O'Dea gets bitched off every centre forward he faces and Thompson is slower than my maw. Things are that bad
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<Insert 'maw joke' here> :icon_mrgreen:

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