For or Against

* the strathclyde * the sfa and * the scottish government let the people sing and enjoy a * match!!
2 hours we get to let out a weeks worth of frustration or revel in the delight of a great performance along with fellow fans and sleg off the opposition! too many people are allowing themselves to be offended and that includes the hun singing the sash and * they sing we sing louder!!!
scottish football is dying a long and horrible death thanks to the constant restrictions to the game we're not allowwed to sing we're not allowed to stand what next no colours??

 

I dont even see why the question needs asked.

You can say anything that is legal that you want so why cant you sing it?

 

Don't know if this has been posted already! Statement from Joe O'Rourke of the CSA today.

"We are now under attack form the Goverment, the Judiciary, and the Police"

"It would appear that we are now under full scale attack from the Scottish Government, the Judiciary, and the Police, not forgetting the SPL and UEFA.
It seem to me that the interference of Match Commander Eddie Smith is particularly sinister; it’s been said that reporting to UEFA direct is common practice; if that’s the case then show us the statistics; how many times has it happened in the past? And which team; or teams were involved?
I would suggest that this is the next step by Alex Salmond in his campaign to impose on us the completely unnecessary new legislation regarding behaviour at football matches; and it would appear he is being abetted by the Lord Advocate Frank Mullholland and the Police.
How else would they explain the case of a 17 year old Celtic supporter getting his door kicked in at 6am on Friday morning by a van load of Strathclyde’s Finest? His heinous crime singing “Ooh ah up the RA”
My information is that the bhoy appeared in court yesterday afternoon; the judge was imposing the usual banning order (which in itself is a punishment before trial); but the Prosecuting Fiscal opposed that and asked that he be remanded in custody.
A 17 year old remanded for singing when some of the most hardened and deviant criminals in Scotland are getting out on bail; it would seem to be completely disproportionate.
I firmly believe there is far too much political interference in the policing strategy for football matches; that would appear to be the case in the Prosecuting Fiscal’s Office as well; is this brave new Scotland being twinned with China; or North Korea?
Are we not the same support; singing the same songs; that won both the UEFA and FIFA Fair Play Awards in 2003; just what exactly has changed?
I would be happy to have a debate with the Club and the other Celtic supporters groups on the issue of singing; but I’m not prepared to stand back and watch a generation of young Celtic fans be criminalised for supporting their team.
The Celtic fans will have to stand up and oppose these unprecedented attacks on our supporters; trying to bully us into submission will not work; that has been tried for over one hundred and twenty years; it failed then; and it will fail now.
There will be a few ways of helping which I will inform you of later in the week. The most important thing now is to try and get this young bhoy out of a prison cell; and back home where he belongs."

How can any of our fans back this type of treatment?

If this * keeps happening and Celtic don't even come out in support of the fans, I'll not be going back!

 

The symphony is a cracking song which should not be bastardized by the reference of either of those two diddies.

 

What the * is this guys problem. * *.

 

What's a person's occupation got to do with anything?

He really is a pompous *.

 

Great point
But in answer to the question the board have shat on their fans thats what has changed

 

You know what. I've just had a wee think and came up with this.

I think Scots, the ones that want to move FORWARD (not a dig at anyone) into the 21st century with the rest of our neighbours in Northern Europe are just sick fed up with all the * associated with our fOOtball.

I think people here are sick of the problems that have over spilled from Ireland, whatever the cause of it.

We all know what it's like when we're totally sick of something, * off, final straw and so on. We over react. Reason goes out the window. JUST GET RID OF IT ALL! Basically.

I think that's what's happening here.

Before nothing was getting down. Now you could say tOO much is getting done because people are fed up.

 

No excuse for this treatment.

 

I never said it was an excuse merely an explanation.

 

I never said you did! I just said there is no excuse for the treatment a 17 year old kid received for singing a song.

 

Tonight on STV at half ten, Jeanette Findlay and Michael Kelly will be discussing IRA chanting on Scotland Tonight.

 

Sorry mate, I thought you meant in general.

Yeah that was completely unacceptable.

 

No doubt it will be a Irish bashing evening.

 

* * they really are coming out all guns blazing! I can't remember any shows about the huns singing maybe the odd bit on the news but a programme dedicated.

 

That's sickening.

 

If that's the case I expect Findlay will be giving as good as she gets as she always defends her fellow supporters when it comes to the rebel songs debate.

Speaks a lot of sense does Jeanette.

 

We have better songs to sing than ones about the IRA

 

Aye good to see shes on it she speaks well and knows what shes talking about. I bet she gets tore in to any arseholes on it

 

Where is the club? No statement, no support and actually helping the police and government criminalise their own fans.