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Euro 2024

Discussion in 'World Football' started by Cena, May 26, 2024.

Discuss Euro 2024 in the World Football area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Onefootwonder

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    Harry Kane has a great record in every competition he has played. He also has a lot of assists for a striker. He is a top player. He gets far too much criticism that is unmerited.

    I don't know how much blame can keep getting thrown at Southgate. He has done better than other managers who also had good players to choose. Too often a lot of the performances are players not playing well or the pressure getting to them. They got nervous the other night again.
     
  2. Westlondonscot Gold Member Gold Member

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    I don't think England were as good in the past as they often thought, they had some top level players but it often involved shoe horning players in because overall their squad wasn't that good. Right now their squad is pretty good from top to bottom.

    I hate that England have a striker like Kane but he's amazing. If he had played for Arsenal or Liverpool rather than Spurs then they probably win a lot more over the past few years than they did. How anybody can say he isn't world class is beyond me. Over a goal a game in Budesliga, 29 goals in 44 CL games, 63 international goals.
     
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  3. murphy88

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    There’s a few in friendlies in the games you mention. By your own admission though, you haven’t watched a lot of England, so maybe have missed him not really turning up in the really big games for them. You are also focusing on club games which I’ve never really debated. I was talking about his performances for England.
     
  4. murphy88

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    His record is good. The argument I made initially was that when it comes to the really big games for England, I don’t think he steps up. Have a look back in recent times. World Cup semis/quarters. Euros final/semi. In the biggest of games, he just doesn’t seem to do it. The best in the world win these games for their country. He has scored a few penalties in these games, but in terms of open play, I remember him being largely anonymous.
     
  5. Onefootwonder

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    92 appearances for England with 63 goals and 19 assists. He is already the all-time goalscoring record holder for England. He will set a record unlikely to be caught.

    England don't turn up for tournaments. When you're the striker is a team that is tentative, slow and negative you aren't going to get the chance to score many goals. It's not Harry Kane that is the problem.
     
  6. McChiellini..

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    Setup well now..

    Some of these weaker nations setup well and go forward with purpose. Unlike us..
     
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  7. Leone Naka Fan

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    The first few games it looked like favorites would easily beat the underdogs. But Slovenia showed fighting spirit, today Romania crushed the slightly favored Ukraine, and now the "toothless up front" Slovakia stun Belgium.
     
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    Watched the build up to the Belgium game all I heard was foden Bellingham English feckers hope Slovakia win .... they press high always but will have to be fit for doing that all game . Oh and scotland take note .. go and have a go at teams
     
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  9. cidermaster Gold Member Gold Member

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    PS get to .uck watching England. I do not watch them unless I know there is a .ucking good chance they will be knocked out. .uck them,i more than hate them with all that * hype and * head deluded fans
     
  10. Belgian_lad

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    We were not minked with Dubravka? Diabolical with ball at his feet it seems…
     
  11. celtic warrior

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    Just to wade in to the whole Kane for england debate... why not, its a bit of fun.

    Him being the record scorer is a joke.

    21 penalties he's scored... a third of his goals are from penalties alone we rip Tavpen apart for being a pen merchant

    5 goals scored against San Marino

    Winners are game changers, carry teams and get the result. Internationally you've got Messi, C.Ronaldo, Ronaldo, Klose even Mbappe recently all carrying their nations to keeping them in the game or actually winning the thing.

    There isn't a single Kane performance where they could ever be said about him.
     
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  12. adequate citizen Zenon Gold Member Gold Member

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    Belgium are so * :)
    It's really funny to watch.
     
  13. adequate citizen Zenon Gold Member Gold Member

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    My default position to determine who am I gonna support in the tournament?

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    Any fkn * English commies/pundits don't :50:

    Even better if there're zero of EPL players in that team.
     
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    Good save steely, Slovakia look very tidy
     
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    Good clearance by Lukaku
     
  16. StevieBhoooy!

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    HTF are they still ranked 4 or 5 or whatever they are?
     
  17. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Brushing over he was the highest scorer in a World Cup? Brushing over the fact he’s England’s all time top goalscorer with easily another 4 or 5 years in him?

    He’s scored more goals for England than Rooney, Owen, Cole, Sheringham, Lineker, Shearer and Bobby Charlton but you’re questioning him as a striker for England :56:
     
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    Lobotka running the show for most of that half..

    Very impressed by them. Duda and Lobotka dominating the Belgian midfield big time and cutting through them with their passing over and over..
     
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    Probably not for much longer.

    You need to give Slovakia a credit here as well.
    Been playing really well with loads of confidence.
     
  20. adequate citizen Zenon Gold Member Gold Member

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    Lobotka's been class
     
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