Euro 2012 Group C

mcgeady was being marked srna and another croatian midfielder and was playing at LB for most of the game to cover for ward

 

ireland made it too easy for him and croatia by sitting of them for longs spells

ireland's coaches should have know that this is tournament football and that is played with possession of the ball

so in effect that means ireland had to play a pressing game like every other team will play in this tournament and you play that game by pushing up as far as you can onto the opposing team

the only reason i can think for ireland not doing this is that they were afraid because of a lack of pace at centre back

but sometimes you just have to do what you have to do

the taking off of mcgeady and that forward is it doyle was baffling aswell since they looked like the players that were causing the croations problems

it seems that the irish coaches blamed mcgeady and doyle for not getting the ball instead of the other irish players for not giving them the ball!

 

Ireland could have done with an extra man in the middle of the park, but by the time they realised this, they were behind and therefore chasing the game.

 

I think Ireland should play a kind of 4231/433 formation, if they are going to keep playing Andrews and Whelan (which they shouldn't)

Given

O'Shea Dunne St Ledger Ward

Andrews Whelan

McClean Gibson McGeady

Keane/Doyle​

Gibson could sit a bit deeper to make it a 433, they need someone in the middle of the park who actually has ability.

 

Is McCarthy in the squad?

 

Nope somehow

 

No, he chose not to be included because his father is ill I think

 

Pulled out due to his dads health.

 

Fair enough then, he would have been a good starter instead of Doyle imo.

 

Biggest load of horse * I've ever seen. Awful peformance. However, all 3 of Croatia's goals had an element of luck about them and we were denied a stonewall penalty. We have a mountain to climb now.

 

Agree with absolutely everything there, exactly what I've been saying all day.
Duff had a good game overall, won plenty of free kicks for us in good positions and got one or two decent crosses in.

McGeady was non existent, as were Whelan and Andrews. Andrews should have scored one maybe two though. I would have brought McLean on for McGeady instead of *, that was an odd move and I can't see Trappatoni's reasoning for it.

Ward is a liability I think in defence but we don't really have anyone else. I thought St.Ledger was our only ok defender. Dunne was not his usual self.

Keane non existent too, but no service for him to be fair. Doyle was * as usual.
Walters done ok when he came on. Definitely better than Doyle.

Can somebody clear up that hun * goal for me, was it offside or not? I'm not sure what the rules are for that type of decision. Oh, and we should have had a penalty, that was a poor decision from the ref.

Overall very disappointed, hopefully we can play alot better against Spain, regardless of the result.

 

Terrible performance. Ireland were far too deep and I'm surprised it was only 3. Dreading the Spain match.

 

ROI were poor

Given not fit

McGeady an empy shirt

Keane no service too old and garbage

new blood needed

 

If he set up the goal, then he clearly wasn't

If there was no service to Keane then there was also none for Doyle, so how could Doyle be *, but Keane not?Also, what did Walters do that was "ok" and made him better than Doyle, both players contributed the same, which was basically nothing. Except Doyle was actually running about a lot and getting stuck in etc in the first half

You clearly dislike and like certain players in the team. You think Duff played well and McGeady didnt even though McGeady set up the goal, and apart from that they were both poor. You think Doyle was the worst of the strikers, even though all 3 strikers contributed the same, which was essentially nothing. Walters wasnt any better than Keane or Doyle. To describe him as ok and Doyle as * when there was no real difference between them shows, for whatever reason, that you have a bias towards Walters.

 

right the changes trappatoni made were a result of mcgeady and doyle not having enough of the ball, i think !

how would you resolve that issue that the players are being marked or isolated with little service ?

you either tell the players to come in field or if a striker to drop into midfield to try and influence play !!!

but what if the manager has insisted on the team keeping it's shape and that you must stay out wide or you must stay up front if you are doyle

in these situations mcgeady and doyle aint gonna or anyone else aint gonna be able to do much unless you have players with ability in the midfield to be able to pass to them for them to create chances.

mistake playing a player as gifted as mcgeady on the left wing

look where all spains technical players play ??? in the middle of the park and they dont just stay stationary in 1 position! they move abou,t so as to find space where the opposition is weak and so they can exploit with their skills!!!

i wish i knew what the irish coaches were thinking in preparation for thiis game and or what their reasons for the substitutes were ???

 

Slaw?

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What happened tonight mate? Pretty sure you said i talk some amount of * lol.Infact i called it perfectly lol

http://talkceltic.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2943346&postcount=78

 

Would you ever * off about McGeady? He was non existent end of story. Any decent footballer should be able to whip in a good cross from that position with a free kick, he done * all in the game and gifted Croatia a good chance with ridiculous pass just before he got taken off.

Duff played better than McGeady get over it, you're obsession with McGeady is * weird, writing on my facebook wall when he plays a good cross just shows the lack of * other things he done in the game.

Doyle got a lot more of the ball than Robbie and was hesitant and done nothing with it. Robbie Keane won a penalty. Completely different players aswell so saying im biased or whatever because I think Keane played better is bollox. Keane is a goalscorer and wasnt given the oppurtunity to score so how can i say he played bad?

Walters came on and got a good few decent touches, ran a lot and held up play well, so he played better than Doyle.

You talk some amount of * Paul, saying to me on Facebook I have a blind hatred for Irish Celtic players, why the * would I ? Idiot

 

How many times do I need to repeat it, he set up the goal - therefore NOT non existent.

Doyle done what Walters done.

You seem to underrate any Celtic or ex Celtic player in the Irish squad, McGeady being the main example. And you seem to think that the Irish players who dont play for Celtic (Walters) are *'s gift.

 

Doyle did all he could i thought, didnt give corluka a break the whole time he was on. Neither striker got enough service so im not naive or ignorant enough to start slandering them and call the players who got us too the euros in the first place *. Bottom line for me the whole team is weakened by the middle two.