England move would triple value of Celtic, says McCann

We will not be playing in an english league thank *. It would kill what remains of the traditional support and we would see many more plastic Tims come out the woodwork.

Celtic are not an english team and i hope by Sept. 18th this year we will live in an Independent Country

 

Possible.

Independence or not Celtic would never be playing in the EPL anyway. Celtic with an English flag next to it like Swansea

 

I think it's quite boring to play the same teams all the time.

In the last 60 years we have played Aberdeen on average 4 times a season. 4 times a season over 60 years is shocking.

Think how much more important games would be if it was the only game against them that season like Hearts at Celtic Park, that probably would be the only game at Celtic Park against them that season, teams would probably bring bigger supports to Celtic Park, rathern than currently they can come when they want as we play each other all the time. Since Lennon took over we've played Hearts 17 times.

 

This, * brand EPL and selling the soul of our club for £££.

 

I really can't see why the club would lose its traditions if it played in England.

 

Aye well we won't be playing them next season.

 

Well take a look at the way english team are supported now then look back to the 70's, 80's even 90's. All full of day trippers now and look whats happening with owners, changing names of clubs, pricing fans out the game, changing colours of kit etc. Its all bad.

 

We'll be playing Aberdeen again though, when we play Aberdeen again this season it will be the 239th time playing them in the last 60 seasons and we have aleast 4 games against them to look forward to again next season

 

The league set up is * but increasing it would only dilute things further. I can't see many people getting excited at the prospect of playing the likes of Alloa at Celtic Park.

A top flight of 12 teams is right for Scottish football. The split is a desperate attempt to make it more interesting. Expanding it wouldn't change anything. Infact it would no doubt create more problems.

 

And then have a look at what's happening in Scotland. Stadiums are empty, atmosphere at matches are non-existent, cup competitions not being able to attract sponsors, and a completely biased governing body...

 

I'd rather see Celtic play Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, Hearts, Hibs, Motherwell, Killie etc than the likes of Fulham, Wigan, Reading, Southampton, Stoke, Norwich, WBA, Middlesbro, Sunderland, QPR, etc...

If you want Celtic to play english teams wait till we get them in Europe.

 

I think it would freshen things up

Aberdeen
Alloa
Celtic
Dumbarton
Dundee
Dundee Utd
Falkirk
Hamilton
Hearts
Hibernian
Inverness
Kilmarnock
Livingston
Motherwell
Partick Thistle
Raith Rovers
Ross County
St Johnstone
St Mirren
Queen of the South

Looks good to me. Only playing each other once home and away, would create more competition too as the runner-up teams would have easier games to get more points to get closer to the top and their 1 home game against us would be massive as beating us would mean they have took half the points they could off us.

Would also be more likely to create wee records like if we kept failing to win at Pittodrie "Celtic havent won at Pittodrie for 4 years" etc adding wee bits of pressure to games, rather than now playing them twice there a season, we'll obviously win regularly.

 

To be fair I have a semi at the thought of some of those away days.

 

It would dilute the league in every possible way. There simply isn't enough money/big clubs to increase the league.

A 20 team league with only 1 champions league place ? That puts it in perspective. More teams won't cover the cracks.

 

There would be a much better atmosphere at all of the games vs English opposition there than there would be at any of the games against the teams we're used to playing week in, week out.

 

Of course it's skirt lifting. If we go down to England we're going down there for one reason only - money. Abandoning your own country's domestic league in pursuit of money from another country's domestic league is whoring the club out to the highest bidder.

Celtic will never "wither away to * all". That's just melodramatic.

If you've never heard that at a Celtic match then you obviously weren't listening very closely whenever the Roll of Honour was being sung.

It's hypocritical on many levels.

The political wing of the Celtic support have no time for England as a country, and even less time for anything they consider "British", yet some of the people who would class themselves as part of that political wing are quite happy to see Celtic being a part of what would effectively be a "British" Premier League, representing England in European competitions and getting rich off of money earned playing in England. Why? Because it suits their own ends. How can that not be hypocritical?

'We hate your country, your army, your flag and your government but we'll come and play in your league and take some of your money'. * off. Hypocrisy.

Many Celtic fans claim to despise the amount of money in the English game but when they think there might be a chance of Celtic getting a piece of the pie they suddenly become all in favour of it. Hypocrisy.


No Scottish club should abandon Scottish football to go and play down south. We should all be pulling together and striving to try and improve our game as best we can. But if any club north of the border should have special cause to never go and be a part of the English league it should be us. With the history, background and political beliefs our support has it shouldn't be an idea we're even entertaining. If you think we're unwelcome in Scotland for thinking the things we do and singing the songs we sing then just wait till we ever get down the road and start visiting places like Leeds, Manchester or London regularly on away days. See how well our Republican songbook is received when we get down there and start singing about "remembering the 10" chanting "Ooh ahh up the RA" and all the other party pieces. If you think the fans down there, the English FA or the English media will tolerate it for as long as it was tolerated up here then I think you are very much mistaken. Us going down there would be a * nightmare. We'd either have to adapt and see the identity of the club changed forever or we'd be an ongoing magnet for trouble and would become even more hated down there than we are up here. Neither of those scenarios are in any way appealing to me.

I want nothing to do with Celtic joining the English league. I hope we are never given the opportunity.

 

The bottom line is we have to get out of Scotland to be able to compete with the big teams on and off the park. Scottish football is dying a slow death and if we don't get out of the country we outgrew about 20 years ago we'll die with it. Maybe there will always be a Celtic playing football but if it gets much worse than it is now the heart and soul will be ripped out of it anyway because even less people will be turning up each week and interest will be zero.

 

Scotland has played a very significant role in the politics of Britain, including its imperialism and its armed forces throughout history, as well as today. Your point just doesn't add up, as far as I'm concerned.

You only have to read the statement published a few weeks ago by the writer of the Roll of Honour to understand the context in which 'England' is used in the song. So to use in the way you were suggesting would be a quite a misrepresentation and, indeed, misleading.

The Scottish authorities have brought in legislation to criminalise Celtic supporters singing Irish rebel songs, in their attempts to 'even things up'. There are, and always have been attempts made to erode the Celtic support of its traditions, culture and politics within Scotland since the clubs inception. If the Celtic support received the same hatred in England, then I would expect the supporters to do what they've always done- refuse to bow down or change in order to appease the ignorant.

 

Yeah it is hypocritical.

I have no problem with England as a country whatsoever. A lot of my best friends are English.

But it will be a sad day to see Celtic play in an English league for me. Celtic are Scottish. We've played in the Scottish league for over 100 years. Way to honour the history of the club.

 

It can't always be about history though, sometimes you have to do what's in the best interests of the football clubs future. And anyhow, just because you move on doesn't mean you ever have to forget where you came from.

Scottish football is dying and we need to get out before we go with it.