Dundee United v Celtic [All match chat in here]

Believe me the supporters that flung their scarves onto the pitch will be back next week, that is an absolute certainty. They will never stop following the club but they are showing the club that they are angry about the way in which things are going in the hope that they may get the message.

And Danni why do they go every week if they "don't care anymore" That is absolute rubbish. They do care but they are just angry, as I said they will be back next week.

 

How many goals do we need to concede before we relise that zonal marking is a * shambles. It was the same last season and were still doing it, time to give it up it's not working.

 

An absolute disgrace today. We should never ever ever have lost that, we completely bossed the first half and McGeady was fantastic over the opening 45. Shame everything fell to that useless * Fortun'e, what a * waste of £4M he has turned out to be (which has been clear since his debut might I add).

Mowbray clearly has no clue what he is doing and again makes a baffling change in McDonald for McGinn. He doesn't know what managerial success is and I can't see that changing the way it's going. I don't think sacking him now would do any good but at the same time I fear he will splash whatever small budget he is given in January on another donkey like Fortun'e. I think if we are beaten by Rangers in January then that is when he'll be sacked. Our team seems to have no shape or structure, on more than one ocassion today Robson and McGeady were playing down the same wing with the opposite completely unmanned. Surely when McGeady moves over to the right Robson should know to switch in the same way that Maloney or last season Nakamura would.

I didn't see the post match interview but would be interested to hear what he said if anyone is willing to type up roughly his key points (i suspect something along the lines of: "we were the better side we played well we were unlucky infront of goal and the defending was poor, overall im happy with the way we played but not the result" ?)

Bottom line is the team isn't good enough, the manager doesn't look like he has it in him to turn it around and as everyone who watches football minus a few managers know - zonal marking does not work!

 

Those people throwing away their scarves symbolises the fact that they have had enough of low standard performances from Celtic but I bet the same people will be back supporting the team next week. They are just showing they are not happy.

 

dannygirl 100% with you on your post ,i also supporf celtic till my dieing day as do my two sons,no matter what the result ,,thu thick and thin ,good or bad ,,hail hail mon the celts ,,slan anios mo charra

 

i wasnt having a dig at Strachan just saying folk have to remember this is essentially Strachans team; okay i wont mention strachan from now on!

mogga probably did make a major mistake being so critical publically but can you honestly say that he hasnt said what we think? the defence IS a joke and the forwards cant score in a brothel though i'd say until we scored that penalty Dundee Unt hadnt even had a sniff of winning the game; the attitude of the players leaves a lot to be desired

still dont think throwing scafs on the pitch is wise, pretty childish imo all i'm saying is that it just gives these media hacks a chance to go totally ott which is the last thing we need on top of such a de moralising defeat

i reckon parkhead will be growling next saturday straight from KO!

 

yes your right marky i wouldnt throw ma scarve away! they * cost a 5er you know:icon_mrgreen:. na seriously i wouldnt but if fans are spending their hard earned dosh following celtic and are getting * displays like that? then you cant really blame them here.

 

Exactly mate, spot on. Basically what I was aying...

 

Do these people think that the board/manager/players are stupid and don't realise that the fans aren't happy when we lose? Everybody who works at Celtic will be aware that fans are not 100% happy with how things are going at the moment.

Throwing your colours away is NOT the answer. I agree with Danni, if you throw your colours away that is you basically saying '* you Celtic'. I think it's a * thing to do and personally I wouldn't care if the people that threw their scarves away didn't come back next week. If they throw their colours away they're probably the kind of people that won't come back next week. But they'll no doubt be back when there's trophies to be handed out.

Also I bet these muppets that threw their scarves away were singing away good style with 5 minutes to go when we were winning. Fickle is the word and I hate fickleness in football supporters.

 

You are not saying "* you Celtic" that is a lie. You are showing your displeasure at what we are currently seeing.
You wouldn't care if they didn't come back ? Well if you want to see a bunch of happy clapping fans at the game then that's your perogative. These supporters are our rank and file (I like the phrase, hence the reason I use it a lot)
They will be back next week I assure you, I have no idea what you are basing your assumption on.
And they will be there every game believe me. Again I have absolutely no idea what you are basing your assumption(s) on.

 

I thought it was defense for Mogga because it was Strachen's team? Anyway we'll forget that, I think the fans need to show the manager and the board things need to change. imo the fans gave the team their full backing for 90 mins they were in full voice from what i heard on t.v and if thats the way the players react to it, it's definatly not good enough.

 

My old man is a Jambo and he's the sort of person who throws his colours away. I've seen him do it. And he is the sort of person who stops turning up when things go bad. He's given away his season ticket at Tynecastle and isn't going anymore. So if that's what he's like then he won't be the only one.

It is my belief that your colours are sacred. They're part of who you are and part of your club. To throw them away is a symbolic thing to do and I detest it.

I don't want 'happy clapping' fans, I just want the fans to show a bit of solidarity and stay behind the team even though things aren't going to plan. Is that not what supporting a team is all about? It's not just all about winning all the time. I thought we were supposed to be faithful through and through? Seems like that is a dead concept these days. I won't be throwing my colours away and I will keep supporting the team and believing that they will turn things around and win this league. I know they can do it.

Yes you do seem to have a thing for the 'rank and file'.

 

Listen everyone, a good manager can motivate and get the best out of the most average players, do you not all realise this, cant you see now that TM is a loser, who failed with hibs, and every other team he managed, he got relegated last year, why the * would you appoint a manager who got relegated, i mean, what the *???? i told many on here that this appointment was a negative one, and it looks like i (and a couple of others brave enough not to agree with the majority) are being proven right, i love celtic, i will always support them, but this is inexcusable, and stop living on the hope that it will magically turn round...IT * WONT!!! because TM does not have the personality or tactical awareness to manage a team, we will win nothing this year, watch this space! There are some people on this site who would back Cilla Black if she was appointed as the manager!

 

Yeah it is what supporting the team is about, however would you not agree that turning up every week and giving vocal backing throughout the 90 minutes is supporting the team ?
The guys you speak about will also keep supporting the team. Of that there is no doubt.
Yeah I do have a thing for the "rank and file" but it's because I feel the need to defend my fellow supporters when they are getting criticised.

I believe that the whole throwing away of the scarves was probably a spur of the moment brought on by anger and dissapointment.

 

I meant the phrase rather than the actual supporters :icon_mrgreen:

Listen, I would defend the vast majority of Celtic fans too. They're my family, the Celtic family. I won't defend people who throw their colours away though. I don't like it and will never think it's an acceptable thing to do. Just my opinon.

 

Ah right, got ye :icon_mrgreen:

Fair doo's buddy that's your opinion. Due to what I have said, you may have gotten the impression that I throw my scarve away when we got beat or whatever. Well I wouldn't I'm just not gonna criticise these supporters for doing so as I totally understand their frustrations.

Anyway you do talk a lot of sense fella, Hail Hail

 

I understand them being frustrated too. I think we're all feeling it at the moment. That game the day we just didn't look like losing, especially once we went ahead. Then we get done by not defending two corner kicks properly. It's * frustrating alright!

Tony Mowbray made an interesting comment after the game about Gary Caldwell. He said he's a fine enough player but he's not 6ft 4 so can't dominate in the air. Can we read into that comment that Mowbray will be looking for a tall centre-back in January? I hope so. We have a serious lack of height in our team at the moment and it needs addressed.

 

I hope the CB situation is addressed in January but who knows if Mogga will even still be here. There are question marks over his future and I have heard intensifying rumours before today that he may quit. Today's result certainly will not help matters.

I still don't know how I feel about him tbh. I'd say that he is not blameless however the players need to take most of the blame. It's sad as I would love to see Mogga and big Peter Grant succeed, but it may be too big an ask for them.

 

From a 1-0 lead to a 2-1 defeat in less than 10 minutes shows me that Mowbray is not helping the team hands on. Strachan or Mon would have been screaming at the players shouting instructions and geeing them on. Mowbray just stares at his nice shiny shoes.
I'll give him till the next Rangers game and then oot, scoot n yeroot.

 

We can never do anything the easy way,we should have buried the huns for years last december but the club were too tight arsed to spend money do so then when they do spend money it is on a manager who seems like a yes man,when mogga was appointed i thought it was a good a move for us but i can now see i was very wrong.things wont get better unless the manager is replaced ASAP with someone who is adequately qualified to manage a club like celtic.nothing would make me happier to see him turn this team around and succeed and be great manager but i just think its a too much of an ask of him