Champions League Dortmund V Celtic Tuesday October 1st kick off 8PM TNT Sports

Sometimes teams are just that much better than you. Set up like Jose morinho would and we can keep the score down, but I'd rather have a go and lose personally.

 

Rodgers recognised that the team needs more pace and power and we did add Engels and Idah but still a long way to go. LB and CDM should be top priorities if we want to see any progression on Europe.

 

I can appreciate teams being better than us and I’m sure everyone can.

I can also appreciate we are not good enough to have a go need to give yourself a chance to be competitive by acknowledging the difference. We haven’t worked this out for years.

Your point to Jose Mourinho, correct me if I’m wrong but he’s done ok in European competitions playing that way with 5 or so European trophies…

 

I mean my definition of not being interested in something must be different as I wouldn't be commenting anything about them but nevermind

 

Most concerning thing for me is the usual 'we will learn from our mistakes' but continue to play our game from Rodgers. After the first couple of minutes when they broke our press and got in behind with a couple of passes I knew it would be a long night but to get demolished 7 going on double figures is hard to forgive. Rodgers needs to adapt fast as every single one of the teams we play including Young Boys and Brugge will identify this and punish us.

 

I still have full confidence in our system and way to play. It has all to do with quality of players in the backline. If we had CCV, and another CB as good as him, and a quality LB, we would instantly skyrocket in quality from the back. We are just to weak there and don't have the quality to play our way out.

 

Oh well it's a new day good morning all. A bad night by all accounts but we move on and better learn from it . Still 6 games to go and let's get behind the team.

 

Suppose I worded that badly, because aye they can. But I don’t think they will.

 

Surely this is this last straw and the reality has finally hit the management that we HAVE to go into these games set up extremely defensively, we cannot go toe to toe with teams like this away from home. Everyone gets excited about splashing £10 million on a striker or attacking midfielder but I’d like to see us spend big on the defence and that includes a CDM of the likes of Wanyama.

We need to go into these games very defensively set up with a strong defence. We had neither of them last night and got embarrassed again. It might not be the ‘Celtic Way’ but neither is getting our pants pulled down and having our arses spanked in front of the whole of Europe for everyone to see.

 

You can have a go without being cannon fodder though. Setting up to be hard to play through doesn't mean your parking the bus.

 

I'd add to that another CCV level CB. It won't happen given what we spend on Trusty (not to mention what we wasted on CBs last season) but we need a really solid 2 CBs for Europe, especially considering how Rodgers wants to play.

Still very early days, but any evidence supporting Trusty being that guy is... lacking.

 

See the squad Dortmund have got there.

I'm not saying they are the best in all of Europe but we are the St Johnstone to their Celtic in terms of finances.

Their weekly payroll for the host of talent they have is €2mill a week!

Domestically we are completely incapable of ever achieving that, even with regular season on season CL participation, we are never going to have the finances available to amass a squad that allows us to relatively compete at the CL level.

Guirassy is supposedly one in excess of £100k a week just for starters.

I know I know people will say but we shouldn't lose regardless to any team 7-1. And your right.

The common theme here is Rodgers and he needs to understand he can not compete at this level using a squad built in Scotland and his ideals