Does anyone want Mowbray to stay ?

P45 time for Mogga.

If this is allowed to go on for much longer, we could end up even further behind the Huns in the league. Its just not acceptable as it is at the moment.

Your tea's oot Tony.

 

I do

 

I think we should give TM til next season. Just worried we'll turn into west brom - good footy but * poor defence which has cost us this season and if not sorted will cost us next season too.

 

To be honest, the question asked in the poll is slightly irrelevant, as after spending so much money to bring Mowbray, Venus and Grant to the club bankrolling the rebuilding, to actually throw the towel in now and start again would both be complete stupidity and also financially reckless in the extreme.

I've said on here so many times that Mowbray can only be judged completely fairly after his 3rd transfer window. That will be after the summer and into next season. As far as I'm concerned anything we take from this season is a bonus, simple as that. The real work starts next season. For those of you who advocate sacking Mowbray now and bringing in Mr.X, think about this;

1. CFC would have to buy Mowbray, Venus and Grant out of their contracts....lots of £££

2. Any new manager and his team would cost lots of £££

3. The restructuring of the side under the new manager would again, cost lots of £££

4. Would you be calling for his sacking if we were under performing after 8 months into the job....because if you did, we'd be in a never ending cycle of changing managers and players and would be losing money hand over fist.

I have my doubts but again....now's not the time to start flapping about changing managers and to be honest, some of the names being thrown about on the board at present as potential managers beggar belief. People seem to have an assumption that because a manager has been successful at one club he'll automatically bring success to Celtic. The reality is that there are a lot of factors outwith the manager's control which can also determine how the team play.

 

I want him out personally

but whether you want him to stay or not, if you take the average on here to the whole of the celtic support, it looks as though over half the crowd want him to go.

simply unnatainable, time to go Mogga, was murder while it lasted buddy

 

Don't be silly!

If Strachan was here- would it be better! No chance ,look at how Strachan finished last season off.

I am still backing TM for a bit longer!

No point changing right now!

 

First mistake is to NEVER take opinion on a messgae board as that of the Celtic paying support.. The reason being that many people on messageboards aren't going to games and for me the ones who ARE going to games aren't chucking in the towel , otherwise we'd have had one of our lowest attendances for our last home game , rather than one of our highest in recent months which it was..

Fans on messageboards (me included) tend to think their opinion has much greater importance than it really does.. Many of them spend more time posting negative crap on match threads during the game , than actually watching the game itself.. When the fans who go to the games start chucking in the towel I'd be starting to worry..

 

I'll back Mowbray, he'll get it right next season.

Rather than throwing millions away compensating mogga, venus & grant then gambling millions again on a high profile manager & his staff, I'd rather that money be well spent on the squad to strenghen for next years campaign.

 

46% want him to stay (I presume they'll be a few Hunposters voting yes though), I'm really shocked at that number.


I think the majority are voting yes to try to stick to the 'faithful through & through' (The term means being faithful to the club, not individuals who hinder us) notion without actually believing Mowbray will turn it around.



I just don't see ANYTHING which suggest he'll turn it around. This season has just been a disaster and the league was over in February - how can people defend that with the quality of squad at his disposal?

 

Hear hear. Also, once you start sacking managers * nilly it becomes a habit, once that happens you turn into Newcastle United. No stability and no hope. He needs time.

 

We haven't sacked a manager since Barnes. Over 10 years ago, one manager would hardly be '* nilly' would it?


I would give him 3 transfer windows if he actually looked like we were improving, but we're not, we're doing the opposite. There is not ONE positive to take from the whole season, it's disgraceful.

 

So whats the point of anyone posting ona message board.

Im just stating that this is a general feeling, how anyone can still be backing Mogga is beyond me.

Look beyond the refs performance yesterday, the 1-0 defeat etc...

We created nothing at all, Mogga, sadly has been a failure at Celtic park. 7 debutonts yesterday in a old firm game is unheard of, im just suprosed we never took a heavier defeat to be perfectly honest.

 

NO

They may be able to perform when the pressure is off them but who is to stay we wouldn't be back to square 1 next season.

I'm sorry but a run in the league witch has been lost isn't going to cut it from me.

A few posts like this, it dosen't make sense a few results with a different core of players than we will have next season when the pressure is off just dosen't show me nothing to say they can carry that on next season.

 

We know.. It gets pointed out to us plenty of times , but we are also backing the manager , plain and simple..

There's no defending our season up untill now.. If people think he's accountable and should go for that then fine.. I don't think that's unreasonable..

For those who are looking for signs of improvement then there's also very little to be positive about but injury also has a part to play as I can't remember a season like this one , but that's kinda going down the excuses route..
I see signs for optimism in the defenders he's brought in which was our weakest department as it was clear we needed to build from the back..
The Aberdeen game aside , I think we have kept it tighter but then the teams we've played haven't been attacking us so it's hard to gauge properly..
All over the park I think we have quality but we still aren't playing well enough as a team.. Yesterday was another case of not playing like a team with too many poor performances.. Had Fortune taken his chance and N'Guemo played the through ball at the right pace for a 2nd chance then we'd probably have taken something from the game.. TM must know with each passing week where the strengths in his team are and where the weaknesses are so Im expecting to see more come from us as a team by the end of the season.. Ki should be weighing in with a goal or two from midfield , Rasmussen has to be given a run now and Maloney should also be back to give good shape to the team... As sad as it may be , I just feel we are going to be going through the motions untill the end of the season now to try and reduce the points gap to something respectable (which I feel sure we'll do) and get some kind of cohesion into the team with a few performances like Scottish cup games where players over-exert themselves to try and make up for the dissapointment..
I can't take many positives either from what has gone on..

 

You can state it as a "general feeling" if it backs up your own stance , which is why I think you mentioned it in the first place but I think that counts for nothing as often the most vocal (on messageboards) are the most cynical of people and some within this "general feeling" are not what I'd call "Celtic supporters" but merely glory hunting people who are more upset that the huns are lording it over us than actually being concerned about Celtic for the right reasons... That's why I gauge it through the support that is shown for the team and the manager from fans at games as it's a wider support and fairer to assess in my opinion..

 

The thing is with the defence, it's not so much the players, it's the absurd system Mugga deploys which offers next to no support from midfield, which leaves us wide open anytime the ball enters our half, the amount of times Whittaker/Davis or the like yesterday had about 15 yards of free space to run into was a joke, whereas we had to find a good pass or peice of skill to get into the same area of the park, the lack of organisation under TM is shocking.

One of the most depressing aspects for me is how we get bullied everywhere now. My highlights of the early part of last decade were hearing that lot moan about how physical we were.

Now we are powder puff. Seriously, nothing, no fight, nothing. The Huns wanted it more yesterday, they were jumping into tackles and the majority of our foreign and/or loaned in team wouldn't put their bodies on the line where it mattered.


I'm totally gutted that I'll be going to 11 league games and have nothing to play for, that's almost a third of the season right there.

 

I'm backing Tony Mowbray but if he was given the boot or quits...then I'd want to see Willie McStay in charge.

He was my first choice when Strachan left and still is.

 

If we dont beat falkirk next week he should be sacked after the game to let a new manager get the rest of the season.

 

Stay , yes. We go over this after every single game. Am bored with this mood. He should stay and give it a shot his way.

 

I know.. it's * craic all round.. I think defensively we just make too many errors rather than a fault with a system.. Professional footballers should be able to organise themselves..
We concede posession too much through our own fault and we concede goals too much through our own fault.. Why can't players at least complete a pass to a teammate.. That is partly the reason we seem invisible in midfield.. Either Kamara , Mcgeady or occasionaly Brown ventures forward with the ball , gives it away and we are immediately a man down across the middle.. The huns don't concede posession anywhere near as sloppy as we do but as soon as they do lose the ball they all try to get back and cover players.. Only Boyd ever seems to be cut the slack from tracking back in SPL games but IMO is partly the reason he's left out from the huns big games as they are built on workrate and his face doesn't fit that style.. They cover positions much better than we do also which is part of our problem but failure to complete a pass and failure to make space for an easy pass is our downfall.. I can't say for sure that we are only 2 or 3 pieces away from having a good team as there are so many question marks over a number of guys , and as you say , some are only here on loan , but I do think it's getting to breaking point with Scott Brown and he needs to be replaced with a playmaker who can pull the strings and the Dundee Utd game showed that we can play without McGeady , so while it's not ideal to be shifting our better players on for good money , it might be the only way to progress us forward and for TM to properly put a stamp on his own team.. I also want to see a hard nut in our team but only someone with leadership qualities as that will allow for the more powderpuff to play their game.. It's partly clutching at straws but there has to be something to hold onto in terms of hope or potentially we continue to go on a downward spiral..