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Do you support the stance taken by the GB regarding the poppy?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by woodlandsbhoy86, Nov 8, 2010.

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  1. Ricardinho

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    No player should be forced to wear the top with a poppy I 100% agree with that. I think it should ultimately be down to the players if they want to wear one they should be allowed to and if they don't then it shouldn't be forced upon them.

    I've voted no but I wouldn't have minded so much if they had at least offered an alternative to try and please everyone. Something like 'No to the red, Yes to the white' to give the alternative of us wearing the white poppy which is the symbol of peace.
     
  2. obonfanti1888

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    all its done is shift the focus back on Celtic when the media really should have bigger fish to fry; now the Green Brigade might be delighted they made SKY News but i can understand how many celtic fans will just be embarrassed

    as i said in the other thread, i dont agree with celtic having been forced to wear the poppy on their shirts by poppy fascists who see not wearing one as an almost treasonable act and i find the whole culture of overt militarism that now surrounds the poppy very distasteful and contrary to the whole original intent of the poppy but surely the GB would have known the kind of fuss this would bring up? allowing said poppy fascists to rip into celtic, crucially deflecting away from yet another scandal within the SFA; what do you think the papers and the rags will be filled with tommorow? it wont be Hugh Dallas's email account anyway!

    as paul said, the best way to protest is simply not to wear the poppy; that more than anything else these days is enough to show what side of the arguement you're on

    i mean, are we doomed to repeat this soap opera every november??
     
  3. shendr18

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    should have just went with a larsson banner. It brings bad publicity
    What did they think was the best that was going to happen with a political statement at a football match??? espescially how quickly the rumours spread about celtic not selling poppies
     
  4. emmetf

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    no, tens of thousands of irishmen lost their lives in the two world wars and youre spitting on theyre graves... if it is ireland that is very obviously the issue once again with this club

    people say youre bringing shame to those who died in WW1 and WW2 by lumping those who have committed war crimes in the middle east, even ive said that, ive had a change of heart on the issue, and i realize that just by saying that i lump them all together....

    remembrance day isnt about glorifying british wars, thats why we cant have a minutes applause because were not applauding the soldiers who died we are simply paying tribute to them
     
  5. KRS-1888 Scott La Rock

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    I think they were right,all this propaganda being shoved in our faces about heroic and humble soldiers doing a hard job in difficult circumstances is bollocks,they are in countries without an invitation as they have been throughout their history.The Green Brigade may have been wrong in speaking on behalf of everone but their intentions were good,unlike the establishment trying to whip us up into some nationalistic pro war frenzy.
     
  6. kenyan_bhoy

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    NO. while modern british army exploits are both shameful and illegal, the two world wars veterans and even those who have died in more modern conflict (to a lesser extent mind) still deserve the highest respect. it is gives the whole club a bad image, no matter how many times the words 'a small minority' is used. really poor show. dont wear a poppy if u like, but dont shame the fallen who have died on the words their (mostly) ignorant polictical leaders.
     
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    i do accept that, the media * fest over soilders has reached distasteful levels; whilst i dont wish british soilders ill (especially as i have several cousins in the army and friends in the navy) i echo the sentiments of the channel 4 newsreader John Snow whos been slated for choosing not to wear a poppy.

    it is seen by some as an almost treasonable act when all Snow was doing was pointing out the contradition in people saying its for people who died for your freedom yet are trying to force you to wear a poppy, which to many is a provocative symbol

    but at the end of the day, this shouldnt be involved with football; the celtic board are also guilty of hypocrisy telling fans not to involve politics yet willing to do just that by putting the poppy on our shirts this weekend

    the point is that the GB's protest, half arsed and badly spelled as it was has only brought negative focus on the club when we are seemingly starting to get somewhere in our fight against the SFA; it has allowed the ever complicit hun media to just brush things under the carpet and lay the boot into us; * knows they dont need much to do that anyway, so why give them the ammunition?

    (sorry if ithats a bit long to read folks! :icon_mrgreen:)
     
  8. celticdawg

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    There was only ever going to be bad publicity for the club when the banner was unfurled on saturday and thats the real worry for me !! The support is clearly divided on the subject so for me celtic and celtic park shouldnt have been used to air peoples political views !!
     
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    i won't buy a poppy or wear one, but there is a time and a place and what they done was too far. its a personal choice to wear the poppy or not, no-one can force you to wear or not wear one. the green brigade are NOT celtic and do not speak for all of us and they made our club look bad.
     
  10. OC

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    No they don't.

    That's the whole point about poppy nowadays. I'm sure none would object if red poppy was for showing respect for 1.5 million soldiers who died during two world wars.

    However, including ALL British troops in this and even organizing a charity for those who served in NI, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. is just ridiculous. The fact that money goes to veterans is also insulting towards some of our Irish and Scottish support because charity concentrates on soldiers who are alive (Northern Ireland, Iraq, Afghanistan), as most of WWI and WWII veterans aren't with us anymore.

    Therefore, poppy doesn't represent what it should - rememberance of people who gave their lives during both worlds wars (of any nationality). Instead, it's another way of introducing politics in football and dividing our support.
     
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    Limited brain cells - thats some of the green brigade

    It`s the same in all walks of life the minority spoil it for others, Once again they have deflected the whole SFA stuff and now were headline news all because of a bunch of morons.

    If they want to protest do it away from the ground - last time i looked it was a football that was played here at parkhead. lets keep it that way and not let neanderthals spoil it.

    And the poppy debate - the media has hijacked this now and using against people who chose not to wear it. I back Celtic if they dont want to put poppy`s on their jersey - they DONT do it in any other country so why should we. Leave that to the Orange bigots who use it as sectarian propaganda.
     
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    I'm against the recent wars as much as the next man but I feel it has very little to do with football so yes, I do agree with the GB BUT was there any need to bring stupid banners into our stadium and give the club a headache we don't need. I'm especially gutted that this has taken some of the lime-light away from the SFA situation which should be the main story everywhere in Scotland right now.

    When Rangers fans do wrong, we some times get excited a like to see their club fined or worse. When they see banners like the one of the GB, they will feel the same. This is what bugs me.
     
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    As an ex service man I feel disgraced by them, that's all I'm gonna say on the matter.
     
  14. Metrobhoy

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    I agree with all of this.
     
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    CP is a football ground. no place for political stuff -> no place for poppies.
     
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    and here is why the green brigade is 100% wrong
     
  17. OC

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    But then again we see Green Brigade with political banners and hear IRA chants often from them. I don't think they should bring that sort of stuff to Parkhead.

    I agree, Celtic FC for football fans, not IRA sympathisers or left-wing socialists.
     
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    which is what they were protesting against the club doing surely?
     
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    you realise your last paragraph completely contradicts the rest of your post?
     
  20. Overkill187 Batshitcrazy

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    Their political banners should be removed as well. the rules should apply to both sides. Unfortunately the Club excludes itself when it comes to poppies.
     
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