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Do you consider Celtic a Catholic club?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Norm Peterson, May 3, 2017.

Discuss Do you consider Celtic a Catholic club? in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. auldbertie

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    I don't think it says anywhere in our history that we were set up to feed irish catholics , just the poor of the East end, what ever their religion . Nowadays we have foodbank donations , we don't stipulate must go to catholics . Really sad that 130 years on , nothing has changed . Still helping people living in poverty . :54:
     
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  2. Deco67

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    Nope, religion has * all to do with football. Politics does, i would identify us as a left wing club every day of the week but
     
  3. John Bhoy79 Stop the world I want to get off!

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    Not a Catholic club but a club open and welcoming to all. As it should be.
     
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  4. Paradise88

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    To me Celtic is a football club and a football club only.
    I do not seek to look for religious or political messages in a football club. I will never fly an irish flag because im not irish, but I see no problem in others dong so because Celtic to them might mean something deeper, be it a religious, political statement or celebrating Irish history.

    Celtic is what you want it to mean to you!
     
  5. John Bhoy79 Stop the world I want to get off!

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    Whilst we have a large left-wing element in our support i don't think i would class us as a left-wing club. Left of center maybe but not left-wing. I certainly wouldn't class our board as being left-wing.
     
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  6. Mr. Slippyfist

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    I never said it was proclaimed anywhere in our foundations that we were set up to feed the Irish Catholics, but if you'd care to read my many posts on the last couple of pages, it's not hard to deduce that Brother Walfrid of the Catholic Church realised that the congegants of his churches throughout the neighbourhoods he was working in, most of Irish, and obviously Catholic, were starving.

    This club was a progression on from the "penny dinners" which were set up to feed those who belonged to the church AND the wider community.
     
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  7. Mr. Slippyfist

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    What a stupid, stupid statement :56:
     
  8. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Which, funnily enough is a mantra of the Catholic church....
     
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  9. Liam Scales

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    Somebody better tell our Marist Priest founder not to found as in St Mary's Chapel then.
     
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    Clue's in the name. :56:
     
  11. Mr. Slippyfist

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    What clue?
     
  12. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    There's plenty who would argue that politics has nothing to do with football.
     
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  13. Paradise88

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    Scanning the Celtic social media, can't find any political statements this week
     
  14. Random Review

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    This is obviously just semantics, I don't think most of us disagree on anything here. Consider these two statements:

    1) Celtic is an Irish club, not a Scottish club.
    2) Celtic is an Irish club: it's traditions and history have been largely shaped by an Irish identity.

    The first is, er, contentious :giggle1:; the second is indisputable.

    I voted no and personally do not think it is generally advisable to describe us as a Catholic club: regardless of how sensibly you actually mean it, it is simply fact that so many people in the UK and Ireland (and especially Scotland and Northern Ireland!) will misinterpret that to mean we are a Catholic club in the same way that Rangers were/Sevco are a Protestant club (which brings us back to an excellent post by @P O'Neill earlier in the thread).

    Better to be more precise with your language in this area (for now anyway).
     
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    The meaning of 'Catholic', mate.
     
  16. Mr. Slippyfist

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    What interpration we talking about here??
     
  17. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    The second isn't indisputable. Celtic is not an Irish club.

    If an American couple moves to Scotland and has a baby, the baby is Scottish. Just like Celtic is a Scottish club with an Irish background.
     
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    Although Celtic has moved on since it's inception Celtic wouldn't or i should say most probably wouldnt exist without the catholic church.
    So in that essence Celtic is/are a catholic club.
     
  19. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Even though this argument has been done to death, i'll comment again...



    Celtic is both and Irish AND Scottish club.

    Scottish, because it's based in Scotland.

    Irish because it was founded by Irish for Irish as well as the wider local neighbourhood ( the natives, if you will).

    Much the same as wee Abdul's shop on the corner is both Asian and Scottish, because his Asian da opened it up when he came to Scotland, and Scottish because it's in Glesga
     
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    It is in the sense of that first sentence. That's why (for example) there are so many Tricolours and hardly any Saltires. Even with people, that is outmoded thinking, mate. My niece was born in Spain to a British mum and a Romanian dad, but she's British because that's how she self-defines.