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do most fans still think the boards transfer policy is correct?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by murphy1967, Aug 22, 2011.

Discuss do most fans still think the boards transfer policy is correct? in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Rosleabhoy

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    to be fair to the board they supported Lennon after he lost the league at Inverness...They supported him with plenty good signings last season. The team blew it.
     
  2. evilbunny1991

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    I just find that myself and you kemo seem to be mistaken for asking the board to spend 10 million pounds, we aren't, we are asking for a few million to be spent to bring in a first team player or 2 first team players(CB/ST), i feel like ive been repeating myself at least a hundred times and every time i say it, it becomes even more obvious and sensible as to what needs to be done yet it doesn't seem as if anyone is in any kind of hurry to get the necessary replacements in.

    There isn't a lot of time left in the window, we have just over a week, look how long fabreglass transfer took, over a year, obviously not quite the same as our situation but complications can arise which will leave us with no time and looking very stupid.
     
  3. 10/4 Kemosabe Gold Member

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    Seems like you and Peter Lawell are at odds then. His 5 year plan plan indicates that winning the SPL title is a must, as it will lead to the qualifying game for the Group Stages. I am assuming that he also means we then enter the CL Group Stages.
     
  4. Rosleabhoy

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    We will be wel down the line with potential signings. The club are looking at a number of them as lennon has said.

    We only need 2 first team players imo to win this title.
     
  5. greengrocer

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    Spot on. I don't think anyone here is saying we need to spend big, but jsut spend on the areas that need strengthend. It's not that big an ask is it? Especially when we, the support, are spun stories of "we will go for quality not quantity". Well, the quality is injured and the quantity just ain 't good enough.
     
  6. Rosleabhoy

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    Winning the title is a must. We would have if we hadnt blown it at Inverness. Winning the title gives us the opportunity to enter the cl...it doesnt gurantee it. Its alot tougher to get in for scottish teams now.
     
  7. evilbunny1991

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    I agree we only need two first team players to win the league, but will lennon get the two players he actually wants or will they be the reserve targets.
     
  8. Rosleabhoy

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    The club will be going for quality. We cant dictate the pace that happens though. Its all cat and mouse stuff in the transfer market. Players will come in over the next 7 days.
     
  9. Rosleabhoy

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    Who knows. That depends on an number of factors....the club, the player, his club etc.

    If we had £10m to spend it doesnt mean we could buy players who have went to lower level EPL clubs for alot less....as some simply wouldnt consider scotland.
     
  10. 10/4 Kemosabe Gold Member

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    So why did Mr Lawell mention the CL in his end of year report if there is no desire to enter the CL? Just being a bit flash then was he?

    And if we are to win the SPL you obviously think this squad is good enough. Despite not winning it last season, and , as you quoted, "blew it last season" and already having had a shocker against St Johnstone. Izzy out for the season, Hooper and Kayal injured and the Orcs going out and spending money to strengthen their squad which, by the way, was good enough last season.

    The policy of this board is on a season to season basis. No more, no less. Lawell didnt mention the fiasco of the last 3 seasons (well two before when he failed to back WGS in his last season, and the financial debacle that was TM) and the boards backing last season was offset by the selling of some of our players. Neil actually didnt spend more than was taken in.
     
  11. Rosleabhoy

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    Of course there is the desire. Silly to say otherwise. we have to do it sensibly though and the club have backed lennon by bringing in guys he wanted....and lennon states he is still looking.

    Lennon should have won it last season. The board played not fault at Inverness.
     
  12. 10/4 Kemosabe Gold Member

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    So what is sensible then? Given that clubs will be spending fortunes to get to the CL, what is our limit?

    The league is won and lost over the season.
    And we didnt lose it at ICT, we lost it at all the games we dropped points in throughout the season, thats like blaming Samaras for missing his penalty against the Orcs, its ridiculous. Games that will cost us like sundays against St Johnstone because our board have not helped Lennon to identify and sign the quality players we need to win the title. As soon as Izzy, Kayal and Hooper were out, the board should have speeded up the signing process.

    Not 10s of millions, a few million. And if players arent identified, then why not? We made a big fuss over identifiying Izzy , Kayal etc last season so what has our scouts and board been up to this season? Where are they?

    Given that the one point we missed the SPL title by last season meant we lost out on the opportunity to get spot in the CL then those 3 points at St Johnstone could be very costly. Dont you agree?
     
  13. The The Hand

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    Well if we do get the players right at the top of our list, it would imply to me we haven't been ambitious enough with our list.

    I'm in favour of the club chancing its arm making bids for quality players, even if we know they're unlikely to succeed. We should set our sights slightly higher than our resources. But then what happens is, if the bids appear in the press, you get fans working themselves into a lather cos - "there's another one we've missed out on!:31:" And (not directed at you) these same critics are often the first to slate the club for "lack of ambition".

    With these folk, the club can't win. If they bid for first rate players (who we're not likely to get) they're accused of failure, or even of putting in fake bids to sell season books. If they don't bid for first-rate players, but only for players they can definitely secure, they're accused of lacking ambition.

    Bottom line is, the large majority of good players don't want to play in the SPL.
    Our entire signing policy is basically a workaround for that simple fact.
     
  14. Senna s1979

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    Well show me a team who is successful and not in debt. Even teams like Man Utd, Barca and Real Madrid with turnover in its billions, they owe more than we are worth.

    You said mid table Premiership teams, now its lower level. Make yer mind up.
    If our team was in that league, the way it is now, we would be relegated.

    Eh, the Home Grown rule? You cannot fill your squad up with Johnny Foreigner no matter where you play domestically.

    OK Fortune was a flop. Sutton, Hartson, Mjallby, Thompson, JVoH, Valgearren.. all players who cost between 3 and 6 times more than what we are buying now.

    People are deluding themselves if they think that by spending £500,000-1million on a player we are getting Champions League quality - we so obviously are not. Championship quality... maybe.

    Edit: And one thing that has annoyed me most is alot of people thought we would walk the league, get to the Quarters of the Europa and be guaranteed a place in next years Champions League with the squad we have.
    Think a few people may have finally woke up and smelled the coffee.
     
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    Hope this post doesn't come back to haunt you :86:
     
  16. vinny25

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    The problem is mate that we are not CL quality, far from it. We would be hard pressed to convince a Sutton or Hartson type player to come here even if we had the money. In those days we took AC Milan and Barca to task when they came to Paradise. Now we struggle against Sion and any other diddy team in Europe. It's * days for sure.
     
  17. Rosleabhoy

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    Yes over a season...that old chat. At the end of the day we had it in our grasp at that stage and blew it to a poorer spl team. The board had given the manager the tools to win the title...he had won old firm games and won a cup...he blew it, not the board.
     
  18. Rosleabhoy

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    spot on. Delusional fans create a bad feeling towards the club
     
  19. Rosleabhoy

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    Oh it won't...trust me :50:
     
  20. kris_bhoy_1916

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    Cu twitter saying lawwell to leave at easter hmmm