Deila' Tactics

I'd agree we'd looked lethargic, think it was generally a lack of sharpness and slack passing rather than fitness though. Hopefully these aspects will come into our game in time.

 

Still waiting to see RD's wonderful so called tactics,4 times now we have been ahead away from home in Europe in this young season,and have yet to hold on because,Ronny,s tactics and subs are * strange.

Said it before and I'll say it again,the guy may be a nice guy and all but he is * clueless as a manager.

Look at the last 20 mins of the Dundee game,the last 20 mins of the Aberdeen game,then look at the last 20 mins of tonights game,and you will see a team that is so * disoriented its not even funny.

Good result but they could have scored at least 3 or 4 and that was just the Dundee game.

 

Good result in the end but it really could have been more with some smart changes..

Kayal roasting on the bench till the last minute was a joke as well as bringing on stokes as a target man with 20 to go..

 

Agree.

 

I'm delighted with the result but the amount of negativity in the tactics after going a goal up on both occasions was unreal. Flashbacks to Trap managing Ireland at some points, except Trap never had us try and play the ball out of defence.

 

Totally positive until each goal then camp it out and invite pressure ..

Pretty much how it went..

 

Good result, performance not so good but this was a fairly strong opponent.

 

just came here to post the exact same comment.

how often have we put in a decent performance and left with * all?
the result was good if taken in context. Still can't see much progress under Ronny though. He talks a good game and seems to have most players and fans on board with his thinking.

Passing and ball retention is woeful (Broony excepted due to never been a great passer). Maybe one day it will all click but i can't see any sign of it.

 

Lots of effort but not much cohesion. I understand he wants us to play a fast tempo high pressing game but why when we are 1-0 up away from home are we running about to get the ball back in play as quickly as we can?? Even Gordon when he has a chance to calm it all down is rushing to get the game going again. We need that time to get a breath then pick the tempo up when the time is right. Our work rate was fantastic last night, and we were chasing shadows at various points of the game, but we are not helping ourselves by continually going at such a pace and in my opinion this is leading to the very poor passing. Aside from that he should have had Commons off and either Kayal or Bitton on at 2-1 us to condense the midfield.

 

2-2 is a great result considering Redbull with a bit more luck would have steam rolled us.

Every game,even in the SPFL we struggle to hold on and get pressed.

Its like we have no midfield and teams just walk right through us ..mean its easy to sit back and blame individual players like Ambrose when he is getting zero protection or help.

The last 2 games there has been a slight improvement because of Broony but the player next to him has to do more and stop losing the * ball ..

Stefan ,what is his role ?he offers little in the attacking options ,through balls are zero ,defensively he is a nightmare and does nothing but give the ball away ..i really hope i am wrong because i like the guy but i think hes not upto the task.

I honestly would play Biton and Kayal before him .

 

He has to mix it up a bit more. Celtic is quite a hard job as we cant build much rhythm in the League to take into Europe like 95% of other clubs as in the League we play 10 man defences every week.

Lennon had the right idea I think. Strachan played the same way every week for 4 seasons and 2.5 of them were terrible as every game was the same. Deila's fell into the same trap where we are playing the same way every week.

Lennon done well by playing different set ups all the time and keeping things fresh and different. I mind he started playing 4-2-3-1, then changed to 4-4-2, then to 4-3-2-1 then there were spells of 3-5-2 back to 4-2-3-1 and then he went to 4-1-2-1-2. I think thats we need at Celtic, to be unpredictable so teams dont know we are going to play an exact set up.

At home in the SPL whats wrong with playing a mad team like

Gordon
Ambrose Denayer Van Dijk
Griffiths Brown Johansen Wakaso
Forrest
Guidetti Scepovic

or any kind of set up you want as most of the time * just play wherever they want anyway. Like what is the point in Ambrose today for example basically playing like a right-winger? we could have played Griffiths there, Ambrose is only there for show as a defender as he spent 90% of the game standing ahead of McGregor.


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Ronny out

 

Better poster when your not here..

Green and white out..

 

I see the "Ronny must go" thread is closed, and rightly so.

Too many supporters think they are more qualified than the football management team (managers, coaches etc.) on football matters, both on and off field. And so it has been as long as football excisted. And that's part of a "alive and not-boring" forum, but hey:

I don't mean to strangle every debate involving specific players or the gaffer, quite the contrary. But I'm sure the stats of this and almost every other forum, shows that supporters change their opinion on this and that along with the teams recent success or lack of it. Completely normal.

What I don't like is this speedy, mad decision-making in football nowadays,
I wonder how long the average time a manager last, both in SPL and EPL.
Instant sucsess. Instant sucsess my *. I would like to see a new manager been given time, at least a full season, perhaps even more, depending on both results and a evaluation of how things are at the end of a season.
That includes both results both also several non-quantifiable measures, like: Is it a belief in the dressing room, among the whole squad? Do they have fun? A feeling of developing themselves? Do the board and the sports management have a good and common understanding? ....and so on...

The only reason I would sack Ronny, IMO, is if we're 15 points adrift of becoming champions come January. Then I think that something is clearly wrong between the gaffer and the players.

As things stand, I think such a scenario is not likely to happen. Ronny is a tough and confident guy, who is not afraid of making some not so obvious team selections, and tactical manoeuvres. And I think he can handle the pressure.

We'll se, but I think he will og on with his ideas 100% and I still believe he will succeed. This season might not be fantastic with 4 trophies and all. It takes time.

Patience. That's what modern football lack nowadays. But apart from the super-rich clubs in Europe, I think that is the method that works out best,
and there is quite a few examples of such clubs, which has managed to achieve succsess.

Btw: Would be interessting to know how many managers have been sacked by board decision / football reasons alone, and not affected by the supporters. Takes a brave chairman to stick with his/the Boards choice.

 

The Ronny must go thread was very premature..

However he is not beyond criticism, his record and the performances have been pretty dire bar a couple of performances.. And his inability to judge the strength of his squad is a worry..

Why spend the whole of the pre-season playing Pukki and Grifiths and then decide they are not good enough and then scramble to get two strikers in at the last minute..

This is just one example...

I'm all for uniting behind the manager but we need to see something on the park worth getting behind..

The team needs to start putting in the peformances or he will Go, we should canter the league with our resources..not worrying what position we'll be in at Christmas!

 

Every time watching us in Europe, to borrow a line from "Apparently Kid", SCARES ME HALF TO DEATH!

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I don't disagree with that aspect, we need steady improvement through the autumn. Confidence is not sky-high among the players fo the time being, especially when it comes the attacking part. Normally we would have won easily last match vs Motherwell, and you could blaim both lack of confidence and inability, for not scoring. Whereas in Europe, we've been shaky in defence.
We need a couple of good results and peformances now, and I do expect them to come. Guidetty is promising, the other newcomers needs more time I guess.

I still believe in Ronny.

 

Who else was he going to play in pre-season? The directors were dragging their heels concerning acquiring new players. Ronny had to work with what he had. He continues to, as well. We should not forget that he still hasn't been given the opportunity to recruit players for his team. Possibly one or two, but that's nothing, given what we've lost recently and the decline of others.

 

I hate it when people start calling for the managers head early on, it does take time for a squad to come to together with new ideas/players.

With the obvious out of the way, I have to ask, what is the identity of our squad? Every week I see a team that is chopping and changing. It looks like no one seems to know what the * they are supposed to be doing out there.

Ronny keeps with 2 in midfield and one up front, when teams are playing 3 in the middle and overrunning us. We are now in the position that without Brown we look weak and ready to get rolled, we are dependant on one player now?

I love Broony and what he does, however the fact that even the manager is saying that without his presence we have no leaders/fighters is worrying in itself. Our whole team should be fighting.

Do we have too many journeymen who don't understand the expectations that comes with playing at Celtic? Every week you need to * bleed and fight for the shirt.

I am really worried about where Ronny is taking us:

Ambrose is not a RB by any stretch, so what is he doing in there Ronny?

Izzy is leaving massive space open for counter attacks and is a serious defensive worry.

Denayer was * woeful shutting down Sutton on Sunday, he looked very half hearted.

We see Gordon dropped, Wakaso who actually looks like he can score is dropped for Tonev.

Ronny comes our and says Tonev isn't ready/fit because he hasn't played games, * is he doing playing Ronny. If he's not conditioned then don't * put him in there. He gets hooked at HT!

Again we see Stokes who is clearly in a run of poor form, starting? He cannot score ATM so, don't * play him.


We need consistency and identity.

I think if we see Celtic drop points over October in the league then I think Ronny will be close. The fans are not stupid, we know our football.

I fear for the worst, we are giving every team that comes against us serious hope to beat us now with this style of tinkering line ups and 1 up front.

Sort it Ronny, * sort it.

 

Axel - does Ronny gave anyone confidence that he can do a job at Celtic? The club and role is far too big for him. What credentials had he to get the job in the first place? I blame the board. U state above about 15 points behind. The advantage we have over every team in Scotland is massive. Most people on here should be able to mange our current group of players to sail thru the SPLF. The players don't rate him. That's it in a nutshell