Daniel Kelly

If it is a pop he is talking * was in squads getting minutes and playing that’s clearly a pathway. And had a pathway laid out for him as part of his new deal.

 

He did have a pathway here, Rodgers was pretty clear on that. He obviously didn’t back himself to push out those ahead of him. So Millwall it is for a relegation dogfight. Silly bhoy.

 

Perhaps he simply didn't believe it was going to be fulfilled.
Not like we have a successful track record of it.


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As much as I do take Rodgers at face value and believe him, perhaps Kelly (and others) it was all too little too late.
Kelly leaving noise happened months long before the sound bites from Rodgers this summer on Kelly and Vata level of appearances.

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Daniel Smelly.

 

As Rodgers said himself, it’s not easy to break into a champions league squad at 18. We’ve sold one midfielder for £30 million, Hatate is being linked with £20m move. McGregor is one of the finest midfielders Scotland has produced in a good while. That’s our starters. Waiting in the wings is MVP in the J league, the Portuguese u21 captain & guy tipped as a wonder kid with 100 first team games under his belt. Kelly was where he needed to be in the pecking order. He imo didn’t back himself to make it here.

 

well considering he was in squads and getting first team minutes long before Rodger’s comments this summer showed a clear pathway for him in squads getting minutes off the bench etc. is all about building him up. So not sure how you can say that when the pathway was clear for him.

 

Happens with a lot of development players we want to keep. Give them some minutes, or have them on the bench prior to signing and then once signed it's back in the squad as cover for injuries. All of those coming up will have seen it happen time after time.

Rodgers can say what he wants, easy words for him to come out with, reality says different.

 

does it say different he was playing in the first team and getting minutes off the bench it’s good development getting time off the bench build up minutes integrate with the squad. we have youth players who have came through and all gone out on loan or mostly gone out on loan and are still around the squads and get minutes. Ralston Welsh McGregor Forrest all for a start came through. And still there.

Look at where lots of our youths have gone club wise etc. Does it show they’re at our level? The pathway was there for him and Vata both choose not to sign up. You can say what you like but I know regarding the Kelly situation.

Was getting minutes in Feb march time scored etc then refused to sign new deal so wasn’t given more.

 

Millwall are gonna be in a relegation battle. Think they've 1 point from 9. He's in for a shock.

Vata is another that's * it. There's a chance he would have played more minutes with us already this season than he's had at Watford so far.

 

Fair enough mate. Kids leaving Celtic because they see better opportunities elsewhere has nothing to do with how Celtic operate, or how they are treated. It's all the kids fault.

 

how was he treated bad he was playing and getting minutes was in squads coming off the bench etc. got offered a new 4 year deal at 5K at week what did Celtic do wrong in this situation? Looking for a reason to slate Celtic on this when they handled it fine would understand if he was nowhere the team but he was in the squads getting minutes etc.

 

He'll have been getting next to nothing up to that point. Celtic need to do more to treat our youth better.

Also, Rodgers coming out and saying they should take it and dropping Kelly from the tour as opposed to treating him like one of the squad is embarrassing. Certainly didn't treat O'Riley that way. His actions/attitude with Vata and Kelly will be seen by our youths. Pretty sure less will stick around now.

 

He’s only 18 ffs mate he was giving him minutes and was in squads he was only 18 shouldn’t be getting anything till they think he’s ready the fact he was there at 18 shows the pathway is there if you’re good enough. He was right to do that any player that doesn’t want a new deal I agree with shouldn’t be part of it. Why should we put the effort into giving them minutes and developing them for it to not benefit us with them signing a new deal? stop blaming Rodger’s for the players actions the 4 year deal was there he was in squads and getting first team minutes till that point

 

O'Riley's situation is completely different. Even though the club were likely to sell him, he was under contact and fully committed. Kelly didn't want to commit and was thinking about his next move. What we done was quite right. I'm sure the youth players see that Turley took his chance and is on the bench.

 

don’t give youth a chance yet turley made his debut today shows opportunities are there if you work hard and commit

 

Kelly was leaving either now or in January, the club were right to say he wasn't going on tour. No point in trying to improve him when he didn't want to be with Celtic. The club does need to look at why players leave so much though.

He came on in the 89th minute, not a massive chance and we will see if he even makes the bench after new signings come in this week.

 

It’s still first team minutes and in and around the first team 6 or 7 minutes builds the confidence for the young lad. Think the B Team rule of so many first team games holds them back also

 

I'm more concerned about minutes post the end of the window. At 3 nil Think he Should have had more minutes.

 

Obviously the development players don't see a pathway to the first team.

He's probably making similar or less money at Millwall but believes he's got a better chance of progressing.

I said what Rodgers said was embarrassing. I didn't say it's his fault. I would say the last manager we had who had any actual interest in promoting from inside the club was Deila.

Lack of a proper footballing structure and lack of a desire to develop our own players are hugely holding us back.