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Daizen Maeda

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Callum McGregor, Dec 31, 2021.

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  1. Double Dutch

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    Good job we're a backs to the wall, defensive team then.
     
  2. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    If there’s ever been a thread that weeds out the * that either don’t watch our games, or know nothing about football… this is the thread.
     
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  3. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    Your last braincells are on life support.

    Honestly, an absolutely nothing statement. As the old adage goes - “what’s your point caller?”.
     
  4. Guchi Gucci Gold Member Gold Member

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    Like most things, the answer is somewhere in the middle. He is useful in lots of games and does have unique attributes but there are games where I think his bad attributes work against him. Camped in against 10 men when it needs intricate passing and technical ability isn't for him.
     
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  5. Double Dutch

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    Point is his pressing ability is the only thing worth a *, and any attacking ability he has is so erratic it holds us back as a team who need to be punishing teams due to our superior ability. Which Daizen does not have.

    I'd have thought it would be obvious to someone with as many brain cells as you.
     
  6. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    It’s abundantly clear to anyone who knows anything about football that Maeda’s technical ability is gash. It’s not up for debate.

    The question is whether you would rather someone who regularly fluffs crosses, and misses sitters, but runs about a lot and gets the occasional scrappy goal.

    Or someone who runs about less but contributes far more goals and assists, and can link up the play more consistently.

    In a team that dominates, or should dominate, 70% of our matches in a season…most people would rather the latter.

    Today is an example of it, really. Yang comes on and we immediately look more creative from wide areas, Palma comes on and scores to seal the win. Both after Maeda has missed a sitter from a few yards out and blazed another over the bar.
     
  7. muaythai postie

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    Against teams who are willing to go toe to toe he's useful bcoz of his work rate and his speed getting in behind that's why I'd always play him against the Huns.. against teams camped in I'd bench him bcoz he has no technical ability or trickery to beat a man.
     
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  8. Foley1888

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    He needs to start putting chances like those two big ones in second half especially the header. He could have actually ran into the ball and it would have went in.

    When we aren’t playing well we can’t be missing chances like that.
     
  9. Zander Gold Member Gold Member

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    He doesn't contribute enough in an attacking capacity, thinking that doesn't mean you know nothing about football.
     
  10. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    Thing is though, he does contribute in an attacking sense. It’s just that his final ball or cross are inconsistent. There’s a difference between nonexistent and inconsistent.

    He doesn’t shank or misplace everything, there’s plenty times he gets the ball across the face of the goal as he should and no one is there. He did it this afternoon, it was a belter of a ball across in the 2nd half and Idah wasn’t switched on and Yang (I think) wasn’t set for it.
     
  11. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    I’ve said it before, if we get a midfielder that works like him then we have no need for him. We don’t and he’s carrying the load.

    We dominate possession but as soon as our opponents get possession we are under threat at the moment. All that possession means * all at the moment. Maeda is the one player I have confidence in breaking up play at the moment. Bernardo too but he’s hot and cold, in and out the team.

    People forget he was playing when we were running teams off the park last year, it’s not like he’s the one holding us back offensively. Our tactics and the team being so disjointed is holding us back.
     
  12. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    No, but writing off how important he has been and what he brings does.

    My problem isn’t with people who would rather a more effective attacking winger, it’s the people that claim he’s a dud and brings nothing.

    There’s a few of them and that comment was aimed at one braindead * in particular.
     
  13. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    Did he hold us back last year? Do you really believe Daizen Maeda is the one holding us back this year? Considering we are arguably worse when he’s not in the team?

    When we look like conceding any time the opposition has the ball, I’d rather he was there because he’s the only one that will burst his * defensively.

    Also his pace is arguably as important as his pressing. It causes problems, it creates an entirely different issue for the opposition manager to consider.

    I’d rather we had a midfielder to break up play and a pacey winger to score and create… we don’t. Maeda isn’t the problem.
     
  14. Zander Gold Member Gold Member

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    Inconsistent is right. His 2 crosses today just about summed him up, one was a cracker fizzed across the box and another was a shank onto the crowd. He's wildly erratic in his crossing and finishing.

    For me a frustration with him is that he often passes backwards or runs into blind alleys when he has the ball meaning that he isn't actually putting in many crosses each game. He is averaging 1 successful cross every 2 games, which is pretty poor for a winger.

    Hes capable of good moments, but they're few and far between in recent months. He works his socks off, always, but for me his pros aren't outweighing the cons whilst he's playing this way.
     
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    I love the guy but he's absolutely brutal technically. He is what he is, I won't slate him too much for it because he gives so much for the jersey, but * me it's genuinely tragic to watch at times.

    He's the type of player that should be used very sparingly. Unfortunately, he's used almost every week as one of our main creative/attacking outlets.

    When he's constantly * up chances, miscontrolling easy passes and booting the ball into row Z from crossing positions, it will obviously frustrate the support, more so when we're not playing well.

    I have no idea why he's classed as an attacking player. I've always thought he'd be better off as a LWB/RWB. *, even a CM. I think someone really missed a trick not coaching him into a defensive player when he was younger. It makes so much more sense to me than LW/RW/ST.
     
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    I've never seen a Celtic forward surrender possession as cheaply and as often as he does, the amount of dangerous attacks that are killed dead because he can't control a simple ball is laughable. There's players in Scottish League Two with more technical ability. He was useful at times with his pressing under Ange but nothing he's doing this season is effective.

    Since he signed permanently he has just 14 goals in 71 matches, a pathetic return. It's a genuine surprise if he scores, his finishing is embarrassing at times. In Europe he scored on his debut v Bodo then 2 years of *-all apart from a needless red card that allowed Atletico to humiliate us. He's also never scored a late winner and this is his 3rd season. He doesn't give us big moments late-on when we need him, that miss could've cost us 2 points. I can't watch another season of him.
     
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  17. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    Who the * bases their judgement on a player by late winners.

    No other player gets that carry on :giggle1: made up pish to push an agenda.

    “Useful at times under Ange” is a massive understatement. You could ask Ange himself. The guy was vital to the way we played. But * wish he scored more late winners.
     
  18. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    I like him and I was excited when we were first linked with him, but I still think his weaknesses outweigh his strengths in a lot of games. Yet again two good chances that could have won us the game were fluffed by him. It’s expected that he’ll do something woeful on the ball more than once per match and most of the time that’s how it plays out. Has his place in the squad but I’d rather he was moved on in the summer and replaced with someone with better technical ability.
     
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    People wouldn't be defending him so strongly if we lost yesterday instead of won because his misses yesterday were awful. As said he's shown he can be a good squad player but think time we get a winger that can actually cross and shoot.
     
  20. HoopyT Danny McGrains Bearded Army Gold Member

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    100% POTY.. ye can aw go take a * tae yersel's :101:

    Heh seriously I know he has massive flaws but I just fooking love him and what he brings to us.
     
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