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Daily Mail Brands the Welsh "Taliban"

Discussion in 'TalkCeltic Pub' started by Ammanvalleyjack, Nov 26, 2012.

Discuss Daily Mail Brands the Welsh "Taliban" in the TalkCeltic Pub area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Barney Stinson

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    I am completely for Welsh children being taught Welsh in schools at a young age, the same as I am for Scottish children to be taught Gaelic. Yes, both languages are not going to be very useful themselves, but as far as I am aware, being fluent in more than one language at a young age makes other languages a lot easier to learn to a very good standard as you get older. In my opinion that's a good thing.

    I'd love to learn Welsh. Living in Scotland means I basically have no chance though. My 9 year old cousin speaks better Welsh than me. Incidentally, I'm originally from Dinbych y Psygod, or Tenby if you want to speak English. I've no idea if the way I assume it is pronounced in Welsh is correct or not. I think it is Din - bik - a - Pas - *. I'm likely wrong though. :icon_mrgreen:
     
  2. Daver

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    Brila (that's "brilliant" in Esperanto; number 5 from the link.):50:
     
  3. TimMalloyBhoy

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    Ok smart *, about 3 other websites use the exact same phrase. I take it they are in the wrong as well.
     
  4. Daver

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    I was actually hoping you would look up "cocky * *" in French, to put back at me in the vain desire we could have an "easiest languages" slanging match. Alas, no.

    Oh, and as a footnote yes - they, like you, are plagiarising the originator. As such, they are completely in the wrong. Unless they specify the originator to give credit where credit is due, obviously.

    Not being members of Talk Celtic, however, my proximity in terms of debate is a tad more distant.

    Cordially,

    Plagiarism Polizei.
     
  5. TimMalloyBhoy

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    I'm sorry, I actually am after the bother this has caused!

    Plagiarism police:56:

    No hard feelings mate:celt_2:
     
  6. Daver

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    I was a bit of a *, reading back, so apologies. No hard feelings at all amigo, quite the opposite.:50:

    EDIT - main reason for bawbaggery being the * WRONG SAUCE BEING PUT ON MY HOT DOG BY THE UGLY WOMAN IN BAGUETTE EXPRESS!

    The polish stunner with the fantastic * never makes these kind of errors.
     
  7. TimMalloyBhoy

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    Nah mate. First and last I will plagirise, I know now I just can't get away with it like I did at school, when the internet was not such a big thing!

    I was just a little frustrated because I already knew most of what it said, however just couldn't put it across as well so thought I would be fly and use it!

    Заткнись, иди на хуй (Zat-knees, ee-dee na khuy)!! Kidding!!
     
  8. Daver

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    Hahaha, like it :)
     
  9. TimMalloyBhoy

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    Funny you should say that mate!! Just last week my girlfirend and I went there, and the woman completely * up her order. After telling it to her several times and was rude as *.

    We have been trying to complain all week without answer however apparently baguette express has no complaints system:rolleyes:
     
  10. Daver

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    Up here in Aberdeen, they are all franchises amigo........no central command, by the looks of things. May explain no central complaints location?

    The one on main street has gone from Eastern European (Polish) to Indian, back to Eastern European.....we are lucky in that, with the exception of the bint that scuppered me today, the vast majority of staff are female, baggable, and very pleasant.

    So we seem to have it lucky for the most part.

    The "one with the *" I referred to before is an extraordinary little creature. Hot as *.
     
  11. TimMalloyBhoy

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    I see, that must be why we are struggling to get an answer. We wrote in writing to the head office so will hopefully get a reply but might struggle since you say that a lot are franchises.

    I wouldn't have minded so much if the woman (ugly as * with no *!) was pleasant, but she looked somewhat offended that we asked her to make a baguette in baguette express no less! Obviously lazy as *!
     
  12. Daver

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    :56:

    That humoured me greatly mate, I must admit. Imagine your * audacity. A baguette?! What were you thinking man?!
     
  13. Degen

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    There's always someone, somewhere with a big nose who knows.
     
  14. muffitO'tea

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    It's not every Scottish persons native language. It was never spoken all over the country.
    It's pointless and a waste of money to want it taught in schools.
     
  15. TimMalloyBhoy

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    :56:

    I had a cheek asking for one mate! It was just the name 'Baguette Express' threw me a little!
     
  16. thailandceltic From Immigration to Domination

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  17. obonfanti1888

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    the Daily Mail publishing xenophobic nonsense? Well I never!
     
  18. Doire_Bhoy

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    It depends on what your native language is. English is relatively easy for Scandinavians to learn (and vice versa) because English and the Scandinavian languages are all Germanic languages on the one hand and have a long history of interaction on the other. Yet even the most fluent Scandinavian speakers of English still struggle with English grammar and English speakers with Scandinavian gender rules. Compare for example:

    English: I am, you are, he is, she is, they are.
    Norwegian: Jeg er, du er, han er, hun er, de er.

    English: he has it, they have it
    Norwegian: han har det, de har det

    Norwegian: et stort hus, det store huset, de store husene
    but English: a big house, the big house, the big houses.

    German speakers on the other hand have no problem with Scandinavian gender rules because German has them too.

    If your native language is Mandarin Chinese (a tonal language that has largely monosyllabic words), English is extremely difficult (and vice versa). English consonant clusters pose major problems for Japanese speakers, and the English sounds "th" in "thin" and "th" in "that", not to mention "w" are relatively rare among the world's languages.

    Likewise the English double-verb construction based around "do" - i.e., "Do you do that?" "Do you have a car?" "Did you see her?" is nonsensical to most non-native speakers and extremely hard to learn, as is the distinction between "I speak/do/write/read etc" and "I am speaking/doing/writing/reading etc".

    You only think English is easy and wonderfully utilitarian because it, or a variant of it, is your first - and I'm guessing only - language. And if you're Scottish or Irish, there's a reason for that.
     
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  19. Doire_Bhoy

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    English is spoken around the world largely because the English state colonised the world (including, incidentally, Scotland and Ireland - why do we write in English on here and not in Scots, Scottish Gaelic or Irish?).

    French is widely spoken for the same reasons, as is Spanish. Ask a Breton, Occitan, Basque, Catalan or Galician what they think of French and Spanish and you'll have the same debate as we're having on here now.

    CELTICgirlSRB is entirely correct when she points out that religion superseded language as the primary badge of identity for many people in Scotland and Ireland, and that it was therefore no big deal - at least on the face of it - for impoverished rural Irish or Highlanders to switch from speaking Scottish Gaelic or Irish to speaking English, as long as they remained Catholic. Indeed, the Catholic Church in the latter half of the nineteenth century was unfortunately one of the foremost anglicising elements in Ireland as part of its compromise with the British Government in order to be able to operate freely in Ireland again.

    Given that Glasgow grew primarily as a result of immigration from the Highlands and Islands and Ireland (migration to Glasgow from Scottish Gaelic-speaking and Irish Gaeltacht areas is continuing even today), and that that immigration comprised primarily Scottish Gaelic and Irish-speaking individuals, most Celtic (and Rangers and Clyde and Partick) supporters do not have to look very far back in their family trees before they find a Scottish Gaelic or Irish speaker. Often both.
     
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  20. Mr. Slippyfist

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    These look like two fantastic posts, and you've obviously put some effort in to them :50:

    My problem is, I haven't a * clue about them and my head is now hurting trying to take all that information in........so thank you :50::56::56: