Come in Tony Mowbray! Your time is up! [Threads merged]

He did say he will need time to build his team one brick at a time
yip and i beleive him as thats what i see on the field just now
just aload of useless B(p)icks

 

a few people are hailing Gordon Strachan as some sort of genius,Ive said this for a long time ,Gordon Strachan came to Celtic when Celtic had a good team, gradually he wasted that good team and left us with a heap of * at the door..Mowbray has picked up the * and is trying to get them to play football ,,football was sadly lacking under Strachan .

i would give Mowbray a bit of time to build the team again after all we gave Strachan 4 years to mess it up. fairs fair

just my opinion

 

I don't believe that. Telling the press you lost the game because your team lacked quality players and that you plan to bring in at least ten new players, is bound to affect dressing room morale and cause players to lose respect for the manager. In any case, even of he believed that, why the * did he have to say it to the press?

 

He can get to *, Never wanted him in the first place, he useless, time to cut our losses keep him from spending anymore money on any more fortune's keep the transfer money give it to a new manager and plan to win the leauge next year

 

Whe Mogga arrived we had won 6 out the last 9 and the 3 we lost were last day affairs. When Fergie came to Man U the hadnt won the league in the previous 9 years or more. Liverpool were so huge too and Man U so far behind that 4 years or so seemed OK although by then he was on thin ice and had to win the cup.

 

Its not looking good unfortunately, the league is slipping away, I appreciate its half way through the season but Its a * of a challenge now Im sure we will give our all, I still think he should be given time, Its difficult to come in, wave your magic wand and make a mediocre side league leaders straight away. I don't think he will be going anywhere for a bit yet, lets just build the team, continue to invest and have a bit of patience. Im not going to be too harsh today as a lot of the team was new and you could tell that, there was a bit of a lack of cohesion and understanding and the defence had never played before together practically, I don't think it is a fair reflection of how we are as a side, we also missed Nguemo big time, he is a real anchor in that midfield and protects the back four far better.. Im looking forward to seeing him back with ki playing along side.. theres a good blend of tackling and passing there, would like to see the back four settled though, lets hope hooiveld is a leader and a commanding centre back.. after that We need a real decent center forward, thats only a couple of players and a few to come back in, Im reasonably optimistic that it will come together, I take heart fro how badly we tore Rangers apart and dominate most teams we play.. there are pieces of the jigsaw missing though thats fairly obvious.

 

We'll definitely lose the title if we have to take in another manager. If we're going for the title we just have to stick with Mowbray and hope the turning point comes soon enough.

 

I am going to predict celtic will win the title..and even if i didnot belive it i would concede NOTHING to them until its impossible to catch them.we have a chance but we need to stay with the team.if it gets anyworse or no sign of improvement over the next month or two then fair doos mowbray isent improving things .a month or 2 is a short time i know but hey it is glasgow

 

i agree cant believe some statements on here keep the faith:bbpd:

 

Its not that I like/dislike Strachan, its that he got the results, the silverware and he did it all with one arm tied behind his back and he accepted the job knowing that he'd be hamstrung by Lawwell and co. He did unpopular job in downgrading the qaulity of the squad and reducing costs but it was necessary for the benefit of the club. The surprising thing (which was taken completely for granted by fans) was the amount of success he was still able to bring to Celtic whilst all that was going on.

When things went wrong he didnt point the finger and blame players or at the board and it resulted in him taking the most of the blame and the pressure off the players which in turn worked to the point that we were able to get results that we didnt deserve. For one reason or another, Mowbray isnt getting the most out of the players at his disposal. Personally I think he's playing a system that doesnt suit the current squad of players but thats a debate for another thread.

I want Mowbray to do well, I dont want the instability that comes with being impatient with the manager and chopping and changing. The current manager will always be compared to his predecessor especially when they have brought success. Strachan was benchmarked against O'Neill and when Mogga leaves, the next guy will be compared and benchmarked too. Its part and parcel of evaluating their performance.

He has to be given the entire season with full support from the board and fans or else its like we want him to fail so we can have a good moan and rant!

 

its a "kneejerk" answer that people use when they havent read the valid points being made throughout the thread! :icon_mrgreen:

 

I think Mowbray should be sacked now if we are even going to be in with a semblance of a chance of winning this league now.

Nine points behind the Huns and they have a vastly superior goal average too.

I would maybe try and get Owen Coyle again or perhaps Mark Hughes.
But Mowbray must go .

 

I'm very much on the fence tbh . I'll decide in may if he should go :icon_mrgreen:

 

Literally just moved to Bolton.

Don't see the point in sacking him really. Think we are doing ok in a lot of matches and he deserves more time to get it right.

 

Facts do not agree with your take on things. WGS inherited a team that had lost 2 out of its last 3 SPLs. MON had not signed a first 11 player in 4 years. The team was old and after MON many players never again played a good season for us or anyone else at top level - Douglas, Agathe, Jackie, Thommo, Sutton. Two more only had one good season left in them - Hartson and Lenny. The post-Celtic careers of all the players who left or were punted or simply frozen out showed their punting was justified. Of all the players WGS inherited from MON, only Petrov would have been any good to him after his first season. All but Petrov were past it either before WGS arrived or within a year of him arriving.

IMO MON let a not particularly young team age for 5 years and presided over a slow decline after Seville and not once did he replace a good player when they were done e.g. Lubo, Mjallby, Lambo, Henke and others like Thommo who needed replacing even though he stayed were not. He was completely inept in the transfer market once the first massive big bucks splash of money. MON really did not sign any new first pick players for 4 and a half years.

WGS inherited a dead team who were losers in 2 of the last 3 SPLs. He punted the dead wood, squeezed one last good season out of Hartson and Lennon, played Stan (the only MON player left with any sort of top level future) and added among his first signings Naka, Artur and Magic and promoted Maloney to regular first team action for the first time. Those changes (done foe a total of about 4 or 5 million transformed a terrible losing dying MON team into an excellent football side who won by miles. For me that transformation showed the difference between the 2 managers. MON was vastly inferior to WGS in getting the most out of shrinking resources..

It is a travesty that MON is treated like a hero when WGS who has better success per season domestically and in Europe than MON (and in a time when out transfer market position was far worse) is treated like a bad smell. Only at Celtic could a guy who came within one game of 4 in a row and gave us our only CL last 16s in our history be considered anything less than a ghod.

 

Rangers won the title today. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.

Worse, Rangers DESERVE the title. The Gers are a shower of totally average hoofers, but they play as a TEAM and their manager gets the best out of them.

Celtic are currently a disjointed shambles led by, quite possibly, the most uninspiring and pathetic football manager I have ever seen.

Look at the results - they don't lie. Mowbray has been an unmitigated disaster for this club.

 

As much as i dislike Mowbray, if the refs had got the big decisions right our position would be a lot more healthy, weve been robbed in the 2 rangers games, the 2 falkirk games. 2 dodgy points for rangers at hearts, thats just to name a few. i know we should be able to win despite refs but they have cost us a lot this season.

 

Mowbray won't be sacked and he won't walk out, were stuck with him, we are all stuck with him, we have no choice but to let him destroy our souls.

Maybe it's what we all deserve.

 

What did I say?

Saying you played badly is something players wont mind if its warranted. Revealling things that usually remain under wraps like you need 10 new players is outrageous and will have players questioning their future at the club.

Yes, I do agree that particular interview was idiotic and if he needed to cattle prod a couple of players, he should have done it one on one behind the scenes whilst telling the press that he's happy with his players. Having his players in the right frame of mind is more important that him telling me things that I already know. I dont need him to tell me he needs 10 players, did you?

Whilst he might want to sell certain players you still got to have them in the right frame of mind and giving their absolute all until the day they are out the door. Thats what man management is about, telling the players, 6 months to a entire season before he can get rid of them, that he needs 10 new players would demotivate the squad players (not the first team regulars) and thats why it seems like we have no depth, alot of them dont give a * because it appeared that Mowbray had his mind made up from the start and nothing he'll say will get the most out of them.

Anyone want to pitch in for a sports psychology book and we post it to Mowbray! :icon_mrgreen:

 

I agree He just doesn't come across as dynamic or forceful enough to stamp whatever it is he wants from this bunch of no hopers. I will also be more than happy to concede that I was wrong IF at the end of the season he's managed to turn this around. Maybe it's unfair to call them all no hopers ......the new guys have still to prove themselves but aside from McGeady and the Goalies I don't think any of the rest have it in them As I say I will be very happy to be proved wrong. Maybe he's a genius in disguise