Celtic's 2025/26 Summer transfer window: needed and wanted!

Definitely need quality cover but in this instance if he very surprised if there's much of an injury

 

Wouldn't surprise me to see the huns outspend this board. I will not expect anything much this summer tbh. Board are happy enough to just remain ahead and will adopt same attitude as 2018 when we where not guaranteed UCL football and the manager out the door in 12 months time
You can bookmark this one mate come end of window. Seen this movie before with them!

 

Who gives a flying * what the huns do


Too many * in Celtic support worried about the * hund

 

I couldn't give a * what they do mate.

 

You literally said


Wouldn't surprise me to see the huns outspend this board


and you don’t give a * take a wee holiday until the window ends eh

 

* *! People giving out that we massively overspent on Idah and Engels, and then simultaneously that we don't spend any money...

We always spend about 10-15m, at least (over the season)... It's just that we're always brilliant at recouping that money in sales at the same time... Which coincidentally is exactly what ALL CLUBS should be doing, but has somehow been thrown out the window with clubs spending 10s and even 100s of millions more than they balance to the extent people now think that's normal behaviour...

We should definitely be spending MORE on a regular basis, but we can't be accused of not spending at all...

 

We will spend more than £10m on a single player.

 

I think it proves he isn't going to be playing 3 games in 8 days.

 

No we will not ffs mate this isn't me panicking or moaning this is the reality of the situation we have no guaranteed UCL action, we have a manager leaving as it stands in 12 months time I fully back the board not to back him and understandable giving the aforementioned

 

Yeah definitely not.

1st half of the season at best he'll play 2/3s of the games. Lot of champions league games before Xmas so will likely miss league game before or after European game.

 

What we spend will likely be tied to who we offload and for what money. Our overall spend will be over 10M but our net spend may not me.

We have a lot of players that we need to move on. Some areas we definitely need strengthening. My concern would be less about what we spend and more about being reliant on moving players first before we start getting players in.

We should be brave enough to get players in first and then worry about moving players on.

 

This is accurate we won’t have a net spend and seldom have one the last decade. Working backwards and focusing on transfer income secured (including sell ons) v spend committed, net spends have been:

24-25 - £18m (includes Frimpong sell on)
23-24 - £7m
22-23 - £2m
21-22 - £0m (Jota, CCV and Maeda transfers completed in the June to cancel big surplus)
20-21 - £0m
19-20 - £4m
18-19 - £10m
17-18 - -£3m (VVD sell on)
16-17 - -£5m
15-16 - £6m

So we are around £39m in profit transfer wise as things stand over the last decade. Rodgers first time around in 16-17 and 17-18 are the only seasons where there was really a net spend and that was needed after the Delia years where they basically stopped reinvesting any profits made in the market. Go back to

14-15 - around £3m
13-14 - around £8-10m

It’s quite easy to see how we have ended up going from around £10-20m in the bank to £65-75m now.

In all likelihood our net spend will be a surplus this year given a few big hitters will move on.

 

Brighton submitted a £34mil opening bid for 18 year old Kostoulas with only 22 league games and 7 goals. We really get * rinsed as a club and league. Hasn’t made a competitive international debut and has only played in the Europa league this year with no goals.

Matt o’riley was half the risk this signing is for them and they paid us £25 mil for him.

not sure why the club set the £25 mil max mark for every player that leaves. When Maeda goes we need to be asking for starting at £30 mil and let the teams outbid each other

 

So O’Riley was sold for £25/26m rising to £30m if what was described as easily achievable add ons were reached, he obviously got injured but may even have triggered some of them if it was a number of appearances.

That £34m bid may have included a lot of add ons etc, otherwise Olympiakos would have probably been accepting it.

I agree we need to be pushing our ceiling but I am not sure anyone we have currently does that.

The other thing is the boy is only 18 and Brighton will have scouted him to the nth degree so must be confident they can turn him into a better player. the fact he is only 18 though makes me confident there will be a lot of add ons to that bid.

Outside of EPL there isn’t the same crazy money flying around anymore, other than the dodgy accounting to balance books etc.

 

Oh I’m not saying Olympiacos shouldn’t be getting every last penny for their players and as you say brightons scouting department is brilliant so he will be a player. What that says to me though is o’riley was a steal for them financially as he’ll have come up brilliant in all statistical analysis etc. that they use now.

We should be starting higher than what we want with our own players and reducing if necessary. I feel like we always value our players at what we’d be happy taking and not what we think we could get for them.

 

@Foley1888 if the board do decide to authorise another splurge (ye know my opinion i dont think they will) surely they would be trying to get deals done before 30/6 for financial reasons to reduce the profit the CT paid last few years is ridiculously high! Also some players back on 30/6

 

You can only speculate but that would make sense to try and do that. I think it is why they pressed the button on the Barrowfield project last season as that £20m project given the earnings the club has brought in and the capital investment tax allowance I believe you get for such projects means that project by the end of this year will largely have been covered and we will have maintained a similar bank balance to last summer.

From the interims and last full year accounts I also think Celtic have been willing to be patient in terms of payment terms for when we receive fees while, happy to offer to pay up purchase fees front loaded which is not typical of a football club. Your average transfer is probably 50% upfront then another two tranches of 25% over the next year or two at our sort of level of spend.

In some ways whilst we had guaranteed CL income that makes sense to do that as it means if we did miss out this year or another and go to Europa we aren’t left with more to pay out than we are due. Again fees we are due outweigh what we are due to pay in the future. Add ons are the same we are due a lot more potential add ons than we are due to pay out and that isn’t included in our figures achieved to date.

Basically despite also having the massive cash balance our accounts show we have made efforts to likely keep that cash balance down without having spent loads.

Buying players in June would be another way of doing that. The last few years we have had income beyond the January window we probably didn’t expect e.g COVID and Ange payouts in 22/23; the Abada sale last year and Frimpong sell on this year. We did do the buying players thing in 21/22 where Jota and CCV were bought in that June rather than July 22 which would have counted for financial year 22/23.

It probably wouldn’t make sense for us to sell anyone just now or if we did the deal would be arranged to go through on or after 1st of July as for FSR reasons we have absolutely no need to sell this financial year, where as if we did miss CL next year then any sales proceeds could help with that gap from the FSR point of view.

I guess if we are to really sign anyone who isn’t out of contract it would likely be the second half of this month onwards as a lot of non international players will be on holiday these last couple of weeks and the international players have been away with their national sides. We will just need to wait and see.

If we are targeting Norway or Sweden based players these next couple of weeks would be likely as they have a mid season break for the internationals just now. Sweden in particular don’t go back to 30th of June. Also we wouldn’t want them to be playing a lot of games just now then basically not stopping until January with us, as I think there is a winter break back in this year?