Celtic vs Fenerbahçe - UEFA Europa League - Thursday, 1 October, 20:05 - BT Sport

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Over the two games we have been the far better team.. Wha worries me now is that I believe ajax and fenerbache will get going in the last few games...We needed 3 points last night imo.. Molde will be difficult tbh.. But I believe we are the stronger of the teams so far... Guaranteed we will need to win in fenerbache now to go through and I can't see that happening..

We could go through if we got 6 from molde but I can't see that.. They are a very good team also..

Tough group but exciting

 

* come off it mate :smiley-laughing002:

 

:smiley-laughing002: People really getting * off about stuff like that? Just like that video of them marching to Celtic Park singing the impressive "* you Celtic!!" song.

 

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Calm down hen.

It's a football match, that's just in good fun, it's not exactly bile they were spouting. Just singing the name of a long dead club

 

If I may, slightly defend Efe...

Before I start, let me say that Ambrose is a capable CB. More than capable actually. But he's so prone to brain fart its crazy.

Contrary to popular opinion, Efe's first "blunder" was as much to do with Fernandao's presence as top class striker.

We're all concentrating on the header and efe "letting" the ball bounce instead of what came before; a decent ball to an incredibly good physical striker, this is where efe * it, he's was unaware of Fernandao, who's nudge forces him into a panic, he jumps too quickly and * the bed. IMO, that was excellent work from the striker, top scorer in his league last season.

The second though is a mystery to me. I dont know who to blame; Efe, Ronny, or kennedy.

Zonal marking only works if players attack incoming balls into their area. Efe didnt do that. Was it another brain-fart? Are the players not responding to this instruction? Is kennedy failing to get through what is necessary for it to succeed?

Glass half empty: we dropped 4 points in this group.
Glass half full: we've gained 2 points in two games against sides that are a cut in class above us.

Molde... i fear them tbh.

 

Ambrose made an * of both the goals, that's the top and bottom of it. He didn't have to head it back to Gordon, but if that's what he is going to do, it has to get to him. The second he gets caught flat-footed, and instead of going and attacking the ball, he waits on it coming to him. An error prone central defender, making errors.

 

While I kind of argree with your point about beating teams at home, we have a very makeshift defence and the team is maybe one or two decent players from being a good, strong unit, that's why people are satisfied with the result, not to mention when the draw was made, a lot of people on here were happy with a draw at home.

For me it comes down to the same mentality of giving teams too much respect, seen it for years on end. I remember against athletico Madrid in Lennon's Europa campaign, we decided to play open and attack for the last part of the game and we looked deadly, were just unlucky. We do it every so often, and when we do, we really click and surprise ourselves.

You see it so many times in football, the "smaller" team giving the "bigger" team a smashing because they don't give them the respect. At the end of the day, individual players can't win you a game, its how well the team works, and there's no doubt we have a good team, our players just seem to always be a bit scared to play at times for fear of losing.

 

Watch it again mate, the pass was a hopeful punt up field, a clearance - not a 'decent ball'. And I don't give a * if he's got Ronaldo or Zlatan breathing down his neck, there were a number of ways he could have got that ball to Gordon safely or cleared the ball. He just * it cause he has no composure or football brain.

 

We didnt defend the second as a team. Fernandao was able to get to the ball past efe because Griffiths was ball watching instead of tracking his man.

Dont get me wrong, Im in agreement, Efe is ridiculously accident prone. but square blame doesnt lie with him alone.

 

Ambrose has to go and attack the ball. If he does, he clears it. I'd be very surprised if Griffiths was marking Fernandao. If he was, then that is a serious mismatch.

 

Well that's what happens when Celtic fans shout Besitkas at them :smiley-laughing002: who gives a *?

 

Sorry I dont agree. The defender knew exactly who was there when he fired it up.

Against scottish opposition I would be right there with you. but When the ball was coming in is where fernandao made the challenge and * efe ( or vice versa). the ball bounced, efe panicked (as he does) and fernandao pounced.

I dont think we're giving the striker any credit here.

 

Not sure if he's being serious :smiley-laughing002: Football fans winding each other up surely not?!

I'd struggle to remember an away European trip we've not done something like this!! most noticeably the Feyenoord flag at Ajax FFS!!

anyway the game itself. Ambrose is a * bomb scare but he always has been & shouldnt get near the team! Brown had a cracking game & once again Johanssen anonymous.

Onwards & upwards troops

 

They get very annoyed over a song


It's like people thought Malmo fans were singing * you celtic


When it was Celtic Celtic Leave The Sheep Alone

 

fernandao was standing on the ouskirts, as a good striker does, waiting to run and attack the ball against a zonal marking system, griffiths is standing inches beside him, and watched him take off.

\im in no way saying giffiths was at fault for the goal, but some physical presence against the rum of fernandao would have been decent.

(i dont necessarily agree with commentators on BT, but even they claimed at the time "griffiths lost his man". )

 

I'm sure he might've intended to hit it near Fernandao, but it wasn't exactly a fizzing long ball that Efe had no time to judge and deal with. It was a floated ball that bounced and bamboozled our useless centre half. Decent strikers reaction to get it and score but was hardly a world class move. That was the best move (only move actually) the created in the first half, we should've been dealing with it.

 

But in the video they where trying to stop the guy being lifted ... * knows what happend for it to happen though

 

Ambrose aside, and I agree he was unlucky as opposed to typically Efe, I thought it was another assured performance. Tactically i like this slight tweak on the formation. Keeping Brown deeper and allowing Bitton and Johansen to push forward is working well. Johansen hasn't been up to the mark creatively so this allows him to come from deeper and do what he does best, buzz around like the energiser bunny. He and Commons dovetail well as Kris comes right across the pitch and Stefan fill in the wider space. Even though it's a slightly deeper/defensive formation, the balance is helping us get more men forward so the striker isn't isolated. I like it. The combination of Forrest's willingness to run at a guy, stefan's dogged run-like-the-wind attitude, Bitton's strong, assured running and passing, and Common's intelligence for making runs and pick out passes gives us real threat and variance in attack. I'm looking forward to the Molde games. Reckon it'll be us two going through

Let's just ditch this * zonal marking. pretty please.

 

agreed. Efe * it. He buckled under a nudge from a striker and hit the panick button.

But I still think our defensive frailties come from a lack of team understanding. we dont seem to know how to concentrate as a team against breaking attacks or set pieces.

Quite worrying.