Celtic Transfers 2024

An employee having to pay out their own pocket to resign from an employer would be weird.

 

Yeah that was crossing my mind as I was typing it.
It surely wouldn't be legal

Just trying to work out what reasons, potentially, could a manager have not to resign - other than they want the wages of course (which is understandable). But he'd surely not be out of pocket if he just walked away.

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Possibly but I don’t think so. I would imagine as a standard the manager can always resign without penalty, except for forfeited bonuses etc.

It might be tricky for his next job though.

 

@Peej

One way I think they get you is they give you a bonus or signing on fee that needs to be paid back if you leave in a minimum period.

 

Penny dropping for a lot of people in various threads now...

 

I did think there could be clauses
but couldn’t think what they’d be.

 

I think things will turn really toxic over the next few weeks and it's probably just as well for the board that out next few games are away from home. Hopefully those fans who can see no wrong with board awake from their slumber and realise what a bunch of shysters our custodians really are

 

I mean, that's a mental take, even for you.

Mark Lawwell has been a part of 22 signings so far

Yang- Not good enough, has potential but I doubt he ever becomes a first team player for us.
Kwon- Never good enough and never will be good enough.
Lagerbielke- Actively trying to punt him, 6 months after we paid £3m for him. * utter waste.
Holm- I like him to be fair but again, he's really not done anything this year.
Tillio- Clearly not * at it. Again, another we are actively trying to punt 6 months after signing him for £1.5m
Nawrocki- He gets pass marks for me. I like him but the club spent £5m on him. I'd expect him to have talent.
Palma- He gets pass marks. He's not the sort of winger I like but his stats are excellent. The lack of overlapping LB hurts his game a lot, in my opinion. Think he gets better if we have one.
Bernardo- The boy has clear talent but he's had 4 good games. He wasn't great on Saturday but neither was anyone. He gets pass marks, though, because he's clearly going to continue to get the game time to improve.
Phillips- Less said the better. In Lawwell Jrs defence... not many emergency loans turn out successful anywhere.
Abildgaard- That bad we sent him back to Rubin Kazan after 6 months.
Kobayashi- Absolute flop. Another not suited to us and another we are trying to punt a year after he joined us.
Jenz- He gets a double whammy for this. I actually liked Jenz. Felt we should have kept him. The fact we punted him after 6 months and replaced him Kobayashi was * embarassing.
Mooy- Excellent and been badly missed.
Oh- Raw but has potential. Doesn't get pass marks from me, though. He was clearly second choice to Cho and it shows.
Hacksabanovic- Another we were happy to get rid of after a year at the club.
Iwata- I like him and I think he has a part to play here but it's not like he's been * class.
Johnstone- Hasn't been the same since his injury but still gets pass marks for me regardless. More to come from him.
Siegrist- *, there's another one we are actively trying to punt. Seeing any sort of pattern here?
Bernabei- and another... yeah, definitely a pattern. £4m he cost us. Absolutely scandalous.
Kuhn- In fairness, I think he looked a class player and I expect to see more of him in the coming weeks.
CCV- Absolutely not getting the credit for them, since it was a permanent deal after a loan.
Jota- As above. He wasn't involved in Celtic before we signed him on loan. Doesn't count.

Now, that's 22 players overall. Take CCV and Jota out, for reasons I explained above and you're left with 20 players.

Take Kuhn out because he's literally just in the door. 19 players left.

I'll do you one better. Take Phillips out as well. Emergency loans are exceptionally difficult. 18 players left.

Of the 18 players we have signed under him, we have already got rid of Kwon, after 6 months and Hacksa after a year. We cut the loan agreements of Jenz and Abildgaard short, they only lasted 6 months. 4 players there, 14 players left.

We are actively trying to get rid of Lagerbielke, Tillio, Kobayashi, Siegrist and Bernabei.. after 6 months/1 year. You have 9 players left.

Oh, Yang and Holm are clearly talented but they're exceptionally raw. They've contributed next to nothing between them. Oh has scored some goals in fairness and his goals to minute ratio is very good but he's not the answer going forward. Or, he's certainly not good enough to be pushing Kyogo. That's 3 players there. You have 6 players left.

Johnstone and Mooy are the only ones who gets genuine pass marks out of everyone for me. Johnstone has been * this season but we know what he can do and he needs to be better. I think the injury may have been a contributing factor to his poor form. Mooy was terrific and we badly miss him. 4 players left.

Iwata, Nawrocki, Bernardo and Palma have something about them. They're certainly not upgrades on what was there before, though. Maybe Iwata was on Abildgaard but I'd argue Bitton was probably better had we utilised him in the DM role far more often. They get initial pass marks but the reality is, they're not better than what we had before.

-So, we have 2 genuine pass marks out of 18.
-We have 4 guys who look like decent players but are absolutely not upgrades on what we had before, so the overall squad is weaker. Admittedly, a couple of them could go onto bigger things(Nawrocki and Bernardo)
-3 exceptionally raw players who are unlikely to make it here, simply because we don't have a coherent plan in how to get them to fulfill their potential. Yang, Oh and Holm should all be going out on loan for 18 months.
- 9 players who have been punted or are on the verge of being punted because they've been *.

Another issue is the sheer volume of players. Celtic have signed 22 * players in 4 transfer windows. In the 4 transfer windows since Lawwell Jr came in, we have spent nearly £55m in transfers in that time. The money we spend isn't the problem. We have had this discussion before. It's the scouting and recruitment. Who seriously looked at Lagerbielke and thought, yep, he's exactly the sort of CB we should be signing for a high line, even though he can't run. Who scouted Bernabei and thought, yep, he looks like a cracking inverted full back... even though he can't pass, his touch is awful and he's * rank in general. We aren't talking like we spent £1m each on these guys, either. We spent £7m on both of them. That's a significant portion of our budget.

I get that signing quality 'isn't easy', as you will undoubtedly reply. No one is saying it is. But the amount of * we have signed while he's been in the hotseat as HoR is absolutely disgraceful and should see him handed his jotters. He's picked the scouts, he's picked the recruitment team. They're the guys at fault but ultimately, it falls on the people who hired these individuals and that's him.

 

Excellent post m8

 

If we announce Idah today we will get somebody else. But we wouldn’t we will leave it as late as possible as usual. Make it looks like we got some big last minute deal done.

 

Im in the bargaining stage now that the board are gonna do a treble announcement deadline day

 

There's a bit of me thinking that Lawwell and son are just getting their own back on the fans for the (fully deserved) pelters they have been getting but surely they wouldn't be that childish - or would they?

 

Bojan Miovski
Kelleher
Sergio Gomez

Then you wake up lol.

 

I could be wide of the mark here but I think if a manager walks out mid contract he’s ineligible to manage any other club until his previous contract runs out, unless he negotiates a release.

As I typed that out it sounded ridiculous. I’m sure someone will know more than me

 

I’m starting to come around to moon howling notion that we are trying to chuck the league. At this stage it’s the only reasonable explanation for the shitshow that is unfolding.

 

Brace yourselves tonight is the night

 

I really think it's just a power play - Lawwell didn't want BR - he wanted a manager he can control - who would fall in line (accept his players, accept his staff). Won't bother PL at all to sit for a year and stall on everything BR tries to do, frustrate him until he inevitably leaves an impossible position. He can't/wont hear the noise. Soon enough we'll need a new manager ... and Dermo is now out of mates he can call on. It will just keep getting worse and worse.

 

surely if DD thought Lawwell was undermining him like that he'd be given his jotters? None of it makes sense in any scenario - all we know is whatever is happening behind the scenes is crippling us on the park

 

£6.8m to make the Idah deal permanent

 

DD doesn't mind Lawwell's schemes as long as the club spends as little as possible.