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Celtic to Tackle BBC over Sectarian Lie

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Rude Bhoy, May 24, 2011.

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  1. obonfanti1888

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    thats not the cup final though.

    plus are we to take the hearts fan's as gospel? after all these are guys who think that anything remotely 'Irish' is "sectarian"

    Scottish people by in large don't even know what "sectarian" means :38:
     
    obonfanti1888, May 24, 2011
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    wonder what mince will be in the reply
     
    kungfoofighter, May 24, 2011
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    Total disgrace the way they "discussed" it on air.

    Joke! Well done Celtic
     
    jamiebhoy88, May 24, 2011
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    who gives a *? that night was marred by some fuckstick clown attacking a football manger and yet you post that * in here! what about what the mini huns sung that night? where in the scum forum did you see the time by time bullshit posted about them? mmmm i wonder i wonder:rolleyes:
     
    alsybhoy, May 24, 2011
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    I though that. Nevin is one of the better pundits as far as I'm concerned, not the type to look for a reason to badmouth Celtic. I think maybe McLean commented on it, Nevin hadn't heard it but just took McLean's word for it and commented on how there should be no sectarian singing at football matches. I think if Nevin had heard the songs they were referring too, he wouldn't have made those comments.
     
    Scotzbhoy, May 24, 2011
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    Check all the idiots posting at the bottom of the article, clearly have no idea what sectarian means.
     
    Celtic_Mel, May 24, 2011
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    About time Celtic * stand up for our support, * you nevin yah wee * you know * all!! sit about there with your wee pen poking it up yer erse! :31:
     
    JamesConnolly, May 24, 2011
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    Good to see that Celtic are doing something about this as well :50: Excellent to see that so many fans have complained also, myself included.

    Too many times Celtic has just taken it on the chin but I think now those days are passed and we won't take any bullshit. Other clubs, and certain media outlets, don't like it but it's purely us sticking up for ourselves. They can't/won't do it but they don't like it when we do it but * 'em. Nothing wrong with standing up for yourself if you're in the right.

    Certain media areas complained when we tackled the referee incident back in October after the Dundee United match and look how that turned out - we stuck up for what we believed and it was actually PROVED that we were right. Unfortunately you still have certain "dignified" people critiscising Celtic regarding this even when it was proved we were right, but I'd rather us stand up for our rights than just bend over and take it.

    To me this is the same sort of incident - wrongful accusations towards Celtic, once again, and Celtic and the fans are out to prove that we have been WRONGED once again.

    It just seems that because Hun FC have been done countless amounts of times for this sort of thing - by UEFA that is, not the SFA because they don't have any balls when it comes to Rankers - certain areas of the media want to bring us down with them even though we haven't done anything wrong.

    Don't think there's anything wrong with standing up for what's right. There may be worms everywhere but that's only because Rob McLean had the tin opener and Pat Nevin had the can.

    Celtic didn't bring any of this on themselves and it's only right that they take a stand on this.
     
    CelticBhoyDavid, May 24, 2011
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    * THE BBC :50:
     
    ILoveTheCeltic, May 24, 2011
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    Just saw this myself, mate. Ridiculous on how ignorant people are to what sectarianism actually means. One idiot mentions about the "anti-poppy" stance but yet it's ok for those arseholes to belt out songs about the "Irish famine" and "being up to their knees in * blood". Deluded *.
     
    CelticBhoyDavid, May 24, 2011
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  11. CH4 Gold Member Gold Member

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    i was in the east stand sang plenty songs dont remember if any ra songs was sung
    i know i was singing the celtic symphony with no ra add ons :rolleyes:

    so its only right they come out and tell us were we went wrong..arseholes
     
    CH4, May 24, 2011
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    The Ooh Ahh with Samoras tagged on the end can often be misinterpreted

    I do not remember an issue when it was ''Ooh Ahh Cantona ! at Man U.:84:

    Let the people sing..................:shamrock:
     
    archie67, May 24, 2011
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    Can't wait to see their reply to over 800 complaints :56:
     
    Efe, May 24, 2011
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    That's a bit of an OTT reply. His post might not be relevant to the cup final but it's relevant to the overall issue.

    Well done on Celtic getting into those * at the BBC, looking forward to seeing the grovelling reply.
     
    Paul55, May 24, 2011
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  15. The Golden God I am untethered and my rage knows no bounds Gold Member

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    Is Ooh ah offensive. OH for fucksake AH can't believe it. :D
     
    The Golden God, May 24, 2011
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  16. celtic_bhoy81

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    pat nevin is a *! He said he stopped supporting celtic because of the fans behaviour so he starts supporting Hibs, pound for pound their fans are the worst in Scotland! I've lived in Glasgow most my life and I know more Celtic fans that have had a kickin off Hibees than Gers
     
    celtic_bhoy81, May 24, 2011
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    People who sing that sort of selection of Celtic songs are a waste of a seat that could go to a football fan instead. They are only marginally better than a number of Rangers songs about fcking the pope, tell tims to go home, all the loyalist paramilitary stuff etc. No wonder people sometimes see us as being 'as bad as each other'. Most of that list would make a fine banning list IMO.
     
    gunt, May 24, 2011
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    Do you? Sectarianism means any severe division within a single population. Severe divide on politics and national identity can be the basis of a sectarian divide. Therefore songs about politics and nationalism can be sectarian. I think religion is just a shorthand identifier in the republican-loyalist divide. The real division is politics and national idenitity both in Scotland and northern Ireland. There is a clash over Irish history and the constitutional politics of Britain and Ireland. That is the core of the division and that is why the division is still there even though most folks are aethiests now.

    The sectarian divide is political/nationalistic and therefore the most inflamitory songs and chants relate to this. Religion is dragged in too (mainly although not exclusively) by Rangers too but I dont think it is core issue that divides. Google definition of sectarianism and you will see that it covers a bitter/violent divide along political and nationality lines.

    I am disappointed with 'switch brain off and close ranks' sttitude on this. That never solves anything.
     
    gunt, May 24, 2011
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  19. Taz Blind Justice Gold Member News Writer

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    The Oxford dictionary would appear to differ from your interperetation.

    Sectarianism, dirives from Sect:

    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/view/entry/m_en_gb0748570#m_en_gb0748570

    Sect:

    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/view/entry/m_en_gb0748550#m_en_gb0748550

    I appreciate your argument, and although in the modern context, the division should not be seen as stemming from a religious divide, but a geo-political one, but the definition of sectarian cannot be undone quite so easily.
     
    Taz, May 24, 2011
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    With that argument you could call any football team in the world sectarian.

    It's totally irrelivant whether you think "BOTOB" or "Let the people sing" are offensive.. the point that is being made is that they are in no way sectarian.

    They are songs about history with beautiful lyrics.

    Whether you agree to them being sang at Parkhead is also irrelevant

    I complained about being lied to on a BBC programme which my TV license pays for.
     
    Bellbhoy, May 24, 2011
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