Celtic Supporters Thread (contains GB chat)

And who's deciding this then?

It's probably a Godsend that you have literally zero power and/or influence at Celtic.

 

This is gonna get very ugly very quickly here.

And for UEFA to have a So Called "Keep Politics out of Football" Yet the amount of Ukrainian flags getting flown at games is ok for them (which myself haven't got an issue with) just goes to show you how ironic all this is.

Next couple of weeks i can see a lot of people getting into trouble.

 

This indeed.

Politics is only welcome at football when it suits a particular agenda.

Celtic have been fined for images of William Wallace, Bobby Sands and Palestinian flags, and let's not forget "* uefa".

Tells you all you need to know.

 

Genuine question mate, did you think the banner was pro Hamas?

 

Not that it really matters in the grand scheme of things, but no.

 

Aye, just wanted another take on it..

In the grand scheme of things none of this really matters..

 

I think were people are getting their knickers in a twist here is over the word "resistance". And probably likely the timing.

There's resistance, and there's armed resistance. Whatever it was, to be honest with you I couldn't care less - makes no difference to my day.

 

Aye maybe someone can convince someone to host another one

Up to the point of discovering the relevance of resistance I wasn't sure on a ban, hadn't really even thought about that tbf, but that, combined with the conscientious choice to not condemn hamas removes the doubt.
I've already given my view on a further statement after this length of time JC but if that comes, after talks with the board, that will very obviously be the board telling them what to do to get out of the hole they are in, which might work.

 

Well the board will very obviously decide on that as it's them who have the power, in conjunction with my favourite Uncle Des or Dessy as the family call him Paddy..

 

Relocate the whole section

 

What you think will happen if we all just bring palastine flags to the A.Madrid match and no banners. Will Celtic still get fined. It's a tricky one this. Alot want to bring flags in support for palastine but still me don't want to Incase it's seen as support for what hamas did. Like stick between a rock and hard place.

 

Aye, there's more chance you're related to Desmonds the barbers than "uncle Dessy" - but I'll disregard the flippancy for the sake of seriousness.

I'm well aware who has the power at Celtic, but you say it as though as it's the ONLY decision to be made is to relocate or ban an entire section, hence why I asked the question of who has decided that?

 

They fined us before for the Palestine flag display before the Ber Sheeva game. If flying a national flag is a political statement ever club in Europe should be fined.


The banner on Sunday for me was poorly worded and poorly timed but still leaves enough wiggle room for them to defend it. My main gripe is with the sheer hypocrisy of the board and UEFA with the whole keep politics away from football stuff when we see Ukraine flags, Taking the knee, Rainbow laces, Poppys on shirts and minutes silences for heads of state I'm not saying anything of that stuff is right or wrong but it's sheer hypocrisy.

 

The section won’t be * relocated


Funny the former Aberdeen hooligan has suggested it though

 

I'd feel good about your scenario however the below would sadden me

 

For me, it comes down to what they actually meant and we can't just assume we know. We don't actually know for sure what was meant by "resistance" and suspicion isn't good enough to call for bans.

There's Palestinian resistance, which I think everyone on here is behind.
There's violent Palestinian resitance against military targets, which I'm guessing this board is probably split on.
Finally, there's support for a horrifying war crime.

The first 2 are 100% legitimate political positions. Even if you personally disagree with second, you have to admit its legitimacy as a political position (if you don't think the second is legitimate, then I assume you also want anyone flying a Ukrainian flag to be banned) and it would be deeply hypocritical to ban the GB for either of those.

If it is the 3rd, then they are utter morons and should be made to stay out of politics for their own good; but I keep coming back to the same thing: just how likely is it that the GB wanted to express the third one? I find it extremely hard to believe and extraordinary claims require strong evidence, not circumstantial evidence to do with timing and the exact composition of HAMAS' name. I know some people I respect on here find it much easier to believe; but I honestly can't see it.

 

Forgive me with the flippancy but seeing as you asked who would make the decision I thought seriousness wasn't the most important thing here..

If I need to state the obvious here fair enough - obviously I have posted my opinion and view on it and No actual decision has been made, yet.
However its surely not going to be seen as a stretch to assume the board will be looking at what the gb have done - as a PLC they will have too - there are reasons for that but I'll not bore the * off you with them.
Then its, again, surely not going to be a stretch to imagine they, the board, will have to do something about it because it was abhorrent whats been done - as plenty supporters have agreed.
So unless anyone thinks that a suitable course of action, for the board to take after that, is releasing a statement saying something like "well that was naughty don't do it again" they need a dose of reality served up. So its not a stretch to assume they will consider bans/closing the section - what else can they do ? Because if a similar banner was displayed in a couple of weeks time we will be hammered.
This all seems pretty straightforward to me from what I/We all have observed previously tbh Paddy.

Tbc here if the whole stadium wants to wave normal Palestinian flags I have not a single problem with that, I'll even bring my own one, but any support of hamas can not be allowed.

 

Oh Christ the brain trust has arrived... that's me * now huh... what a well thought out and considered counter argument you have presented me with, concise (ask a grown up) as well... or did someone type it out for you aye - you should stick to cut and pasting, then you wont look so thick son.
Anyway if the whole ground was closed it wouldn't make a bit of difference to your match-day experience so no need to panic

"" indeed.

 

Worst thing about this * is how it splits the fan base, when we’ve been a relatively decent state since Ange came in 2 year or so ago.

 

I'm not really seeing a split? Other than a disagreement on position of this between the main fanbase and the ultras?

Guess that's why they are the ultras? I do think less of that group from recent events but it's not like what they do is the be all and end all.