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Celtic Supporters Thread (contains GB chat)

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Paul67, Dec 17, 2010.

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  1. FrankMcCallum

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    The ‘make you own noise’ or ‘nothing stopping you starting songs’ argument is utter pish, and everyone spouting it knows it.

    That standing section is a singing section, and plenty of likeminded people applied to relocate their seats over there so they could contribute.

    That section is a focal point for an atmosphere.

    Funnily enough, it’s more productive to have a few hundred guys starting songs which then resonates round the ground, than having two or three guys attempt to start a song in a random part of the ground.

    I’m all for what the fan groups are trying to achieve in this instance and it’s rare I disagree with their ethos and aims, but this is completely counter productive and the only people it is affecting are the last group of people that should be affected by it; the players on the park.
     
  2. Mystic Penguin

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    Honestly the players should msn up in my opinion.

    They've been poor at home since August.
     
  3. G40B

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    It’s also really awkward, as starting a song almost seems as if you’re breaking the protest.

    I don’t know why they don’t just make some proper good displays that are on show for the full 90 mins.

    Apparently on Clyde 1 Keevins was commenting on how ‘flat’ Celtic Park is. This is getting no coverage outside the Celtic fan echo chamber.
     
  4. Mr. Slippyfist

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    No, the standing section is a SAFE STANDING SECTION.

    As an FYI, you do know that you don't need to be stood to sing, don't you? Much the same as you don't need to sign if your standing - I'm sure one of the stipulations of being given ticket allocation in that section wasn't "one must express their opinions at all times in song"...
     
  5. NomDePlum

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    Maybe a daft question but
    This is getting really * complicated.

    First game with the GB silent protest (for the first 30 mins) I was at the game with my son. Before the game started we had a conversation about it. I explained why the protest was happening and asked him what he wanted to do. He decided we shouldn't sing, which I agreed with. We are in a different area from the GB. We did this based on leaflets handed out before the game not personal experience.

    We didn't sing across the 30 mins.

    When I go to the games I join in the singing (atrociously) whenever I can as I believe that is part of supporting the team and helps the team.

    Not singing to me obviously decreases our chance of winning games. Not sure how anyone can say differently. Helping the team is a big part of why I go to games.

    So under current circumstances is singing supporting the team OK or is there an expectation that the silent protest is only from certain sections?
     
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  6. john2061

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    This is us coming into the crucial period of the games and the GB have made their point and it's time we all get behind the team as we have massive injuries and the players need our backing .
    The board is the * board they will do what they want and all your here from them in the coming weeks is silence and no dialogue and to show they won't give in to the fan base .
     
  7. Marie Bookmaker

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    This is it for me too, guys, I love singing and always join in when I can, but, I support the protests and had remained silent during the previous 30min protest.... I felt really awkward at the Betis game in particular and ended up joining in.

    Telling people to sing and make an atmosphere isn't as easy as it sounds...
    It's a no win situation.
     
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  8. JamesM09

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    It’s not utter pish mate. The point of telling people to do that is to highlight just how much effort it takes. It keeps coming back to this but we want the GB to sing and do all that stuff because of how helpful it is to the team, but we also don’t want to help them when they have an extremely legitimate concern. They’re literally protesting like this because this is what Higgins tried to do to them.

    This is a very easily solved issue by the Celtic board but we are so stupid as a fan base that they’ve literally just stayed quiet so we’ve forgotten all about them. Genuinely unbelievable.

    It’s also a display section and if we really want to pressure the GB to leave the section so the poor souls that never got in can go then we’ll see the end of the displays.

    Of course if the people that move there decide to do displays then they will soon find out why the green brigade were protesting.
     
  9. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    Seems to me the tactic is flawed, its caused division and is directly effecting the players..

    Don't get me wrong the silence from the board is a disgrace and they are in a no win situation in some ways.. If they make a statement it will look like they've given way to fan pressure and will wonder where it ends, will it be the same for every issue..

    And obviously appointing Higgins, can't happen now, either way they have shown how out of touch they are..

    I'd imagine the decision on Higgins was made before the silent protests, however with nothing from the board its difficult to know for sure..

    On reflection the silent protest may actually be quite effective, but there's no doubt it damages the team too.
     
  10. McGrory1888

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    I fully support the reasoning behind the protests, but if those in the standing section think that the board aren’t twisted enough to relocate their seats and replace them with people willing to support the team while causing them less hassle then they’re wrong.
     
  11. Sean Daleer Gold Member Gold Member

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    I must admit, I’m not a fan of the silent protest. Completely on board with protesting the appointment of the pig Higgins (Piggins if you like) but just felt there may have been other ways to do it.

    That being said, if I was at either of the last two games I would have been silent in solidarity with the lads who have had their lives turned upside down by a horrendous piece of legislation and enforced by the very person the board are trying to hire.

    That being said, some of the reactions in here are a complete disgrace. Par for the course though for some dickheads that infest this forum and who need no excuse to stick the boot into the GB.

    Jealousy is terrible affliction lads.
     
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  12. wulliebad

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    Silent protest just lets the board know the GB are not happy so they will ignore it, there needs to be a wider involvement that is in the boards face and they cant ignore it. Because the standing section creates so much of the noise when starting songs off its hard to know who is supporting them or is the rest of the support waiting on someone starting a song. Maybe a signed petition by all the fans attending the games. Some people outside the ground collecting sigs for example. 50k on a document would send a stronger message. It could be signed over a couple of games so that it was not just season ticket holder on the document.
     
  13. Dannybhoy81

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    Exactly this, it's easy when you are surrounded by your supporters bus etc as you have numbers to get something going. I sit around more older people who don't sing often and like yourself I join in singing when I can but there isn't much I can do to get it started, if I could get 50-60 thousand to start singing there wouldn't be a quiet point in the game. I wonder if the people saying the other fans can start singing are actually going to the game as I think they would realise it is a strange situation we all find ourselves in
     
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  14. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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    Money is what this board worship, and money is the only way we'll bring them to the table... If we generate a massive atmosphere, brilliant, because it's monetisable... If we don't, they just ignore it and focus on our historical matches and ignore, knowing that the division in the support will end the protests eventually.

    If we want board representation, we'll need to buy it; one way or the other. Either by slowly buying shares, withholding finances or finding a third etc way to get them to open up to us.

    Outside the box thinking is required to present a united front from the support and a methodology that the board can't ignore; or will voluntarily choose not to
     
  16. The Phoenix Black Lives Matter

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    Spoiled brats. Neds.
     
  17. Cena Never Give Up Gold Member

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    Bet they took all the best toys for themselves and wont share with non gb members
     
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  18. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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    :56:

    https://thecelticfamily.wordpress.com/2021/12/12/thugs-brats-and-cunts/
    When the chips are down you know and see who your friends are. Last season when Celtic had a bad time a section of the support, led by blog leaders like James Forrest, and his Green Brigade thug pals, turned on the club. They verbally and physically abused players and staff. They attacked and slaughtered the club on every social media platform and the mainstream press, who they claim to despise, to bolster their attack. They were physically violent outside the ground endangering the lives of people. This was hidden behind a wall of ‘we love the club so much’.

    They attacked the club during the new manager hunt, even though they club went after who these brats wanted. When THEIR CHOICE showed his true colours, wasn’t his fault, was always the club at fault.
    They attacked the man the club did get. Repeatedly. How can anyone who has managed in football for 25 years know more about the game than buckfast swilling coke heads? Then they see results and they go quiet, they get their wee blog leader halfwit into a press room with the manager and he utters the most childish and idiotic line to the boss ‘i am your bestest friend Ange, please be mine’…I paraphrase of course, but that is what he meant.

    They then attacked the club about ‘backing the manager’…when they realised this has been done..with more to come, they now attack who the club want to take on this poisonous element within the club. Now, Bernard Higgins IS the worst type of Police Officer, well certainly for a football club. He is a bully and a tyrant. He ensures that laws and rules are followed to his interpretation. That is not suitable for a football club and certainly not Celtic. But he is being put in place to directly manage this group of * in our support. The Green Brigade are poison. They are a band of wannabe Ultras.

    Their defence is always ‘we sing songs and have big colourful flags’…well the songs and flags have often got the club into trouble, now the club can afford 40k fines of course…but that isn’t the point. They, those fans, are bringing the club the attention of UEFA. They further talk about their ‘charity work’… giving and working for charity doesn’t excuse the bad behaviour, it just makes you a * that helps a charity. This group of fans brings the club into disrepute. Now they have started again on the manager after the injury to Kyogo. This is just a group of fans who have their own agenda and will attack the club at every and any opportunity.

    They openly admit they feel they have the right to own and run the club and that this is their goal. They want their hands in the till. They refer to Fergus McCann and what he did, they forget the structure in place now is based on Fergus financial vision and they forget that Fergus was an accounting genius. They are halfwits. They forget too that the older ones in this group of fans (Celtic da’s) booed Fergus when he delivered the title. Yes, that is conveniently forgotten, how they were part of the group that supported Hugh Keevins when he had a go at only paying 300k for Moravcik when John Spencer was available for 1m. These people, and/or their idiot offspring, are who is behind this group of fans, led by the Green Brigade

    This past two years has proved that Jospeh De Maistre was right, people do get the governance they deserve. That applies to fans at a football club too. That is what Celtic is. A football club. We all know it’s history, how and why it was started…. but it is a football club and business… it is no longer the social enterprise it begun as. To think any different is childish and naive. By being so childish, brattish, thuggish and naive, by not being trustworthy to behave in society, rather like society as a whole just now, you get tyranny. They are thugs, brats and *. It’s that simple.
     
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  19. McChiellini..

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    Who the * has written that?!?!?!

    Jeez.