Celtic Supporters Thread (contains GB chat)

White Poppy is the symbol for those who died in the two wars but doesn't fund the British Army.

That's the only difference.

 

"If we really want to abolish the military and all that goes with it, we must first abolish the last remaining justification for it in the eyes of the general public"
And the white poppy people think it will be a good idea to get rid of the military altogether. Wow.
I'm not very good at writing and trying to get my point across; I just think if the red poppy symbolises rememberance of those that fought during WWI & WWII then that's good enough reason to put aside political opinion and all that crap just for one day.
No one is personally asking anyone to plough millions of pounds in to the British Army. Just buy a poppy from somewhere that isn't fundraising for the army.
I guess it just symbolises different things to different people, I don't think of the current regime when wearing one, I think of my Nan and Grandad living through one of the worst times in World history.

 

White poppy is a symbol for peace is it not? Remembering all who have died in war. Not just the Brits who most of the time (other than WW1 & 2) have got no more than they deserved.

 

Where do you think the money goes that you put into the Royal British Legion box goes?

 

I totally agree with your sentiments mate and it is sad that the symbol was hijacked and abused not just to commemorate the dead from world wars 1 AND 2 but also that of the over all conflict in Ireland, Malvinas, Iraq, Afghanistan and used by Loyalist paramilitaries on there commemorations.

These conflicts are totally opposed by many supporters who attend Parkhead and this is why there is an issue regarding it.

The poppy was actually used as a symbol to commemorate the dead from the battle of the Somme in 1916 where many thousands of lives were lost on the poppy fields there.

What you have to remember is that the vast majority of men who died in the two great wars were not soldiers as such from military backgrounds but civilians who volunteered or were conscripted to fight in them.

The 2 world wars are used by devious politicians and anti Irish media moguls as a smoke screen to ridicule those who speak up against the poppy for the above reasons and the symbol should have always been a unique emblem to commemorate the two great wars in all its tragedy and for that alone.

I personally would have had no problem wearing one if it was kept within its authenticity but sadly this was not the case.

 

Yeah but i'm not personally ploughing millions in. I know as a "traditional Celtic fan" I should be against the army but i'm not. I might be against some of the things they do, some of the wars they fight, yes, but that's not the fault of those who sign up to the army to make a better life for themselves. The 16 year old kid that sees no other way out of poverty so he fights for his country as opposed to scrounging off the state and smoking crack, he doesn't suddenly decide where we should be fighting, he does as he's told. There's soldiers in Afghanistan now fighting to protect us, protect the real afghan people and give them back their freedom. I don't see fighting the Taliban as a bad thing, especially not after 9/11.

 

It's someone like you, with a reasoned argument and clearly educated on the subject that I can agree with 100%. You explain your reasons for not wanting to wear it and I respect that entirely. I just think there are too many brainwashed people around that are anti the poppy just because their Dad was or every other Celtic fan says it's bad so it must be.
I just don't want people to lose sight of what rememberance day is about and who we are actually remembering.

 

Buying a poopy raises money for the scum that destroyed my country.
Whereing a poopy advertises it and makes it appeal-able to others.
I would be seen dead with one.

 

If it was for the men and women off WW1 & 2 I'd happily let it on the shirt.

 

like lots of things the poppy has been hijacked to suit the needs of people who want to hate and have conflict. no one is forced to buy one it is a personal choice what people have to remember is the true meaning of it and the poor guys that had no choice in being sent out of the trenches to die in fields far from their loved ones there choice go out of the trenches to be butchered or be shot on the spot,some choice.we have choices thanks to these guys mine is to support celtic without the political baggage that some of the support cling to, there will always be division over the poppy but you dont have to buy one.

 

* the poppy, it does not belong on a football top.

If the club decide to bring politics into the football ground, by adding the poppy to our strip once again - then the Green Brigade should not be criticised for airing their opinion because the bashing they got last time was a disgrace. I was in complete agreement with them, as were many others.

Lets stick to the positives at the moment though, they've got CP rocking.

 

* you talking about. that was about 2 years ago. The GB have done a lot more than the poppy protest. Is there anything they do that you think is good for the club?

 

the official line is the club put it on the shirt as a mark of respect to the celtic players that died in the two wars. with the eyes of the country on us you dont give them the opportunity to bash both the club and the support .

 

Yes but we dont want it shoved down our throats by being on the strips of our beloved shirt. I dont think players like Stokes like having it on there shirts either. If people are foolish enough to want to buy a poopy go ahead, but I dont want them on a celtic shirt.

 

by the way poppy protest was last season and the green brigade create a great atmosphere which will be even better if we get standing area in the ground for them

 

They were expressing their opinion (which I agree with). Do you think the GB is good for the atmosphere at games?

 

no gb=no atmosphere! so yes they are good.

 

gordybhoy you have your opinion i have mine i dont like things that alllow outsiders to have a go at the club or the supporters the protest allowed this just look at what was being said down south gave the papers ammunition to further batter our club and support

 

I dont want to get into this as its been done to death. Was just wondering, if its so shamefull, why bring it up all this time later? The GB have done a lot since, a * of a lot of good for our club so why drag that back up?

 

Who cares what they think?