Celtic AGM Friday November 20th 2015 at 10.30am

Well he is employed to run the football club mate and to try and turn a profit for the business/shareholders. Exactly what that entails I'm not sure.

However as far as I can see he is only doing one of those things successfully.

 

Minimalist explained it well.

Lawwell is the head honcho who will appoint the heads of all the different departments that run the football club.

Chief scout, head coach, head of security etc... will be employed and accountable to the CEO.

None of them seem to be fulfilling their remit.

 

One diamentionally hes solid; balancing the books for the purpose to pay shareholders. Undeniable. This is done regardless of the performances on the pitch which some can't see the problem.

Hypothetically, if Deila gets he sack, thats Mowbray and him that are bad appiontments. Lennon and Strachen was good. Making his judgement 50%. Thats far too inconsistant and the effect hurts us long term, no wonder we have seen a decline in quality and revenue.

 

He has Minimalist, but how often does it happen that an employee * up which leads to a bad result for a company? It happens an awful lot (Celtic teams been great at it this year). But just sacking everyone who does this isn't realistic. I agree that things need to change but I think just blaming Lawwell for it is blind. As I said before if someone else would come in it's not as if things would suddenly all be great.

 

That's my whole point exactly bud, none of us no what he gets paid for nor how much, so I think it's a bit pointless stating that he doesn't deserve his wage because.........we simply do not know?

Celtic Football Club - whether we like it or not - IS a business, and that's the way it will remain to be ran.

 

If I hear even a snippet about the Huns here I'm going to go bonkers. Does my tts in.

 

I'd say they are doing a fine job at present, We've brought in developed and moved on some cracking players over the last few years.

 

The very fact that we don't know what exactly Lawwell's remit consists in is itself quite telling IMO. Surely at least the shareholders ought to be kept informed of such things.

I'm not anti-Lawwell BTW.

 

I believe that is a imprudent view especially when you're measuring the procedure of a person or persons not acting up to there standards where it leads to '* ups'.

I'm stating from a analytical perspective, we have seen the quality get worse over the years, more European embarrassment and Managers lacking interest to accept the Job at Celtic Park. The current Transfer policy has seen a handful of players sell for good profits, where our recruitment has calculated into quantity over quality, this obviously is the result of poor employment from Scouts where Lawwell made the judgement to employ them. He has the sole responsibility as the Club is structured under Social Collectivism; Where the CEO distributes wealth and seeks growth in all departments of the company. Right now we are not seeing Celtic grow which reflects predominantly in the Football Department (The Quality isn't there, Ambrose etc its embarrassing).

There are supporters in our fanbase who are more inclined to blame these on the Huns empathise (when it has nothing to do with us) or/and the inflation of the Barclays Premier League. Thing is, we TAKE the poor revenue that is at our disposal from Sky&BT its hypocritical to lay the blame on them when we can use another alternative route like taking on a Independent TV platform (Like Benfica's). We simply don't do this and I am sick of reading people laying into the blame of stuff which we can counter.

Its unequivocal that the current Board is one diamentional, I can't take anyone serious when people say they aren't because I haven't heard a contructive argument to back them up to refute the analysis I have just typed up.

 

Ronny has final say on all signings mate, the scouts could have served up yhe next Messi on a plate for all we know, it's up to Ronny to say yay or nay.

He seems to only go for players he personally has seen play.

 

If that was the case we would have a conveyor belt of 'assets'. We simply don't and wont have that. Its DELUSIONAL to assume were going to get 'quality' from markets where majority of low valued players are poor (majority).

Ki, Hooper, VVD, Wanyama and FF. That is it. That's not consistant enough and we have a underproductive Youth set-up.

As a result we are out of Europe as there is no quality, and a Manager who is obsessed with a developing philosophy that has not produced satisfying products on the Park.

I'm serious, if you think otherwise you're literally denying results and transfers at Celtic. We bought Ciftci whos record wasn't consistant enough to play for us and some were under the illusion that he would go on and do us the business. Insane.
Griffiths has scored consistantly throughout his career, that is a indicator to buy. He scores brilliantly. The policy isn't working and your assertions is laughable.

 

He has final say on 'recomended' players. That isn't a flexible transfer procedure. Its working so great Blackett is probably the worst players I have ever witnessed in a Football strip and hes a Manchester United player.

 

Lawwell isn't completely to blame for the lack of quality though. There was this post the other day about the 100 richest clubs, Celtic wasn't in it. 10 years ago we had enough money to buy already good players. But our budget has basically remained the same or even less. This means there's just so many more clubs that can pay higher wages than us the decline was if being realistic, inevitable. However this doesn't of course excuse Celtics failure in Europe I believe we'll be a lot better next year though

 

Google, plagiarism and 'good company management' makes everyone smart :smiley-laughing002:

 

Yes he is, he employed them. If they are not having a consistant success rate with our resources we aren't progressing. It defeats logic to keep hold of people who are not successful enough to keep up the demand (Europe).

We aren't in the top 100 because of the impact of TV lucrative deals, we are one of the biggest revenue driven clubs in Season Tickets on the planet, a large majority of they Clubs in the top 100 top there revenue due to the TV deals.

10 years ago? Because Dermot Desmond underwrote investment from a shareissue to raise operating capital for the Football Department, this also was done for the Training Ground. On average every year, our Player Amortisation is between £8-£10m per season. It's not because of lack of quality its the structural order of which we go in for players in lower markets and refuse any ambition.

I would like to see another Robbie Keane signing on loan or a short perm contract, the Commercial department would explode again creating long term revenue. We don't see that happening do we? Instead Dudu Duhan gets a call and we buy his 'recomended players' or Lawwell will phone his son at Man City and well get another Boyata.

 

We don't get good TV deals mate, nobody wants see the SPL unfortunately. Financially we just cant compete with basically any team from the BPL, Bundesliga, Liga BBVA, Serie A or Ligue 1 and even the top 5/6 Eredivisie clubs. So why, why would young talented players want to come to Scotland to play against crappy teams whilst they could be in 4/5 other leagues where they could be playing against worldclass teams earning a lot more money. It's not as if we're not trying to sign great players, it's not as if Lawwells like 'yes kicked out again' Celtic just, unfortunately and inevitably is a club in decline unless we'd get like a sudden big time investor, that'd be pretty good.

 

:smiley-laughing002:

You mean, we choose to take poor deals.

Nobody wants to watch the SPFL because theres no star players or quailty in it. If we signed Gerrard on loan the viewing figures would increase. Thats the reailty and to blame it on this TV deal thing is hypocritcal.

Were in decline because of our own actions, and just to tell you we have a billionaire who can invest but chooses not too because his handicap means more.

If you want to blame TV deals which we take :smiley-laughing002: then batter away.

 

Could be argued the spfl is doing that to us more than anyone at the club.

 

Lets blame the SPFL now :smiley-laughing002:

Next?

 

I don't completely blame TV deals but they're a huge part of it mate. BPL teams get a £100mil every year from them. You think that if we'd sign Gerrard our figures would suddenly triple? No of course not. Scotland has a really tiny population so there's just not a lot of money to be made from football here. How many people live in London and surrounding areas? Like 3 times the amount of people that live in Scotland. If you think we should be up there with the top teams, then, I'm sorry to break it to you, but you're the one being delusional.