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Brings it on himself?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by D. Dziekanowski, May 12, 2011.

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  1. Stevieg78

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    I live in Essex and everyone here says the same " he should calm down" etc etc

    we'll * off!!!!

    You name 1 thing that this man has done that hasnt already been done by Wenger or fergerson or any other EPl manager????
     
  2. oneill88

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    I keep getting hit with 'If he doesn't bring it apon himself then why is it only happening to him?'

    If Ally McCoist acted the same way lenny does next season I guarentee he will not be sent bombs, bullets or attacked at matches. For the simple reason that is not how you treat other people regardless of Nationality, Religion or which football team you manage, play for or support.

    It most definitely not The Glasgow Celtic way!
     
  3. mike67

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    The problem is the deeply entrenched bias in Scottish football towards the Huns and additionally anti-Celtic establishment who are allowed to make statements and make decisions which are never challenged by others in authority or any substantial section of the media - George Peat being the biggest example.

    Even now there are sections of the media who are trying to blame Neil for last night and Jim Jefferies in today's papers said he thought that the reason for the "ugly" atmosphere at Tynecastle may have been the comments from Neil that he didn't think Hearts tried hard enough against Rangers - even though this was nowhere near what Neil said. Tynecastle is a rat-infested Hun- Hole and always has been, they don't need an excuse.

    I have come to the conclusion that in this backward, anti- Irish country that we'll never get a fair deal and therefore should decide what's the best way forward for our club. Is it to accept that every now and again we'll be "allowed" to win a few trophies, but never be allowed to be the dominant force or should we look to play our football elsewhere, as a number of other posters have mentioned.

    If it's the former, remember we can't complain if we take their money and then be shocked at their bias against us. We'll never be allowed to be equal, the Act of Settlement has seen to that. We're always going to be *, bead-rattling, terrorist b*******.

    Despite since our inception being a non-religious organisation who welcomed players of all races and creeds, we're portrayed as the problem when our greatest rivals only allowed Catholic players in the last 25 years under pressure from UEFA for their bigotted organisation.

    I would agree with our club actively looking to move away from this cesspit as I have lived with this prejudice for the last 50 years and it's getting worse as peoples views become more polarised.

    Time to realise our culture is more important than the Scottish / British shilling. I will always be a faithful Celtic supporter.

    :shamrock::shamrock::shamrock:
     
  4. Bhoy Brian

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    Listen as a player he was an annoying antagonistic character who loved nothing better than winding up opposition fans and same as a manager to a lesser extent. As a northern irish catholic rangers fans where always goiing to hate him and the rest jump on the bandwagon. As a manager he does have to temper his behaviour and maybe not be as honest with some of his opinions but i feel he will learn that with experience. Having said all that thre is nothing that can justify the treatment this guy has been recieving i mean i hate sir furious at man utd but gawd dont wanna kill him and there have always been controversial players look at gasgoine playing the flute but wasnt attacked and he was an alky wife beater too so when any of them say he doesnt help himself tell them to get a life
     
  5. buchanbhoy

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    I know what you mean all the huns at work jokingly say poor wee Neil and laugh then you wipe the smile off their face by saying its a pity it was not MCoist they were going for , Twats
     
  6. Joe T

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    its * disgracefull the way Neil has been portrayed in scotland. and the following are to blame:

    1) the knuckledragging Huns and their warped mentality.

    2) the TRUE biggots among scotlans influencing those who just think its funny.

    3) the lack of action the SFA and SPL have taken against this brewing problem.

    4) the MOST imprtant is THE PRESS! they have demonised a man for no reason but to sell their * to knuckledraggers! I hope they realise the part which they have played to demonise a man to the point they have put his life at RISK! i hold them as accountable as anyone!


    I for one would love to leave the scottish league if scoland try to start dictating our manager etc through biggotry! the bias etc does not bother me as much anymore but to try and dictate our inhouse matters such as manger etc gives us no option but to attempt (really push) to play elsewhere!

    I am ashamed to be in anyway related to scotland and will never go and stand side by side at a scotland match with these scum again! I will continue to support Ireland and drop and well wishes or well being for the backward country! (not at those who see sense in scotland)
     
  7. DannybhoyCFC

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    I get the same. "He's deserves it because he's a *" I don't think that justifies trying to kill him. He's not a *, they just can't stand to see a northern Irish man doing a good job with us, he's doing nothing to bring it on himself.

    Jose Mouriniho gets in just as much trouble and he doesn't get any of this shut from the barca fans?

    Showing it's just the pathetic Rangers fans who do this kinda stuff.
     
  8. Aldobaldo

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    Here is a conversation I had with someone on this subject.

    **** plenty managers show passion in their jobs but he is way past that with his behaviour!!! I am a Celtic fan and ashamed of him!! He should be setting an example and taking higher ground! He acts like a yob in my opinion!! Young kids loo...k up to football managers/players and that comes with territory of role and that is no way to behave!! He shouldn't have all the crap I totally agree it's also a disgrace what's happening to him and it's blinking football but by acting how he does he invites the sub humans of this world to react and it's self perpetuating!! I wish we had someone better to manage that's all and much better eye candy!! Like Jose?!?!

    ME: I am a Celtic fan and I am not ashamed of our manager, what I find shameful is the constant excuses made to justify the behaviour of knuckle draggers in this country. Lennon`s touchline behaviour is no different to that of Jose Mourinho or ...Alex Ferguson for that matter. This is what the crux of the issue and also the media peddled stories. As for being an example for young kids, well the primary influence of children is there parents and Lennons behaviour has little to no influence on kids. The difference between Ferguson and Lennon is that his so-called behaviour has recieved unprecedented negative press coverage since he has arrived in Scotland. This persona that has been painted by the media in this country in order to sell papers is pathetic. Also why should a person have to adjust their personality because the dregs of society cannot control themselves. Let`s not just bring the dregs of society into this as the incidents off-field have also involved the often described upper class individuals. I feel sorry and embarrased that people in Scotland cannot control themselves and are influenced by outside sources and form opinions based on what they read and hear. This problem will not be sorted until people try to stop to offering excuses and reason to justify this sort of behaviour.

    Other individual:Well don't agree with at all - of course they are role models!!! I am going with what I have seen!! Cursing and swearing, being restrained with spit flying out his mouth is no way for anyone to act in any field!!! That scene i am describing... was on the news tonight! Disgraceful!! If u saw that in a pub u would call the police!! I don't want my child seeing that behaviour anywhere!! For that matter if u behaved like that in the workplace u would be sacked!!

    ME:The workplace of Neil Lennon is not the same as the that of you and I or that of a pub(although my workplace is similar to that of Neil Lennon). If your children were to walk down the street or be near the presence of somone that swears the...n I assume that if you disagreed with it you would inform them that behaviour was wrong. This is where parents have the opprtunity to guide and influence young children, as I said before a childs first role model is their parents. You refer to the news tonight and as I mentioned before the media present a certain persona. While they continue to produce pictures of a snarling Neil Lennon, I ask how many stories have been written in the papers or reported with tv coverage of the vast amount of charity work which he undertakes and represents in a regular basis. If you read and watch the same media outlets as I do then the answer is very little and this is what I find disgraceful. Anyway ***** I will agree to disagree with you on this point but agree that it was indeed a great result and unfortunately I agree it does seem lost. Although I live in hope for a twist of fate in our favour on sunday.
     
  9. Gabberhead Celt

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    Any of you who have hun mates and can listen to their * after what happened last night, you have the patience of saints if your friendships last after this season. I hate them more than ever.
     
  10. JohnBhoyCfc1

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    I'm sick of the huns saying "he brings it on himself" because they aren't man enough to admit that Neil Lennon doesn't deserve anything thats happened to him. So its his fault that expolsive death devices are sent to his door? It would be different if he was doing the same things himself but he's not! He's a * football manager! Football is a sport! Death threats and bombs in the mail are 100% irrelevant from a sport! Sadly enough in this twisted * up anti-catholic and anti-irish country it happens and nothing is getting done about it, if Ally McCoist had got a bomb sent to him we'd be getting all the abuse! "* *, terrorists I bet its the IRA thats sending them the dirty * tottypicking *" and all that other stereotypical and typical bullshit! Even if it was someone very important in the Government like David Cameron I could bet everything I have that they would of found who did it by now. But no typical of the media, the police and the SFA it all goes *sweep sweep* under the carpet. The sooner I leave this country the * better because I can't stand having to put up with all this * bullshit.
     
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    The "he brings it on himself" is all a crock of *, because there are other managers who do worse. Lennon jumps around when we score a goal and isn't afraid to criticize referees. If that's all it takes to get this kind of treatment, why hasn't Arsene Wenger been run out of England? Look at all the things Mourinho has done and said over the years-nobody ever ran out on the field and attacked him, nobody ever sent him bombs.

    Lennon didn't bring anything on himself, and even if his jumping around was the reason why, that would still be * ridiculous because that's what managers are allowed to do, and the punishment for it isn't a hate campaign of * insane levels.
     
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    Thats all i heard at work all morning..."he deserves it" "he brings it on himself" etc etc
    Only in Scottish society could this kind of attitude be acceptable.
    Totally sick of all this now!
     
  13. jokeybhoy

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    He brings it on himself cos he is a convicted pedo who rapes and murders old woman.is that not what he did?.of course not it's cos he is a Celtic to the core roman catholic.
     
  14. jokeybhoy

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    The Huns have a history of hating catholic players.look at the treatment robbie keane got while playing a friendly with Liverpool.at the end of the day they hated Lennon as a player and they are taking it to new levels how he is Celtic main man.nothing but vile bigots
     
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    when you look back across his playing career he never really done anything, it is just bigotry and people jump on the band wagon without thinkin about it.
     
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    this :50:
     
  17. oranBhoy

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    Does he bring it on himself ? NO!

    Neil Lennon is what id call a growler.. that coupled with the fact of where he is from is imo the reason he is hated in Scotland,.... NOT his fault.

    It is also like ive said on here before the reason why he gets so much worship from fellow Celtic fans..in my opinion.

    While we have a warped vision of Neil being a "provo too" etc & a per centage of our fans have unconditional love for him because of it.. then we cant complain when opposition fans hate him for the very same reasons..


    However physical attacks & parcel bombs etc are perpetrated by the very dregs of society i hope that scumbag from last night is made an example off..lets see how serious the Scottish goverment is in tackling this.

    Might not always agree with his footballing tactics but ill back the man 100% against this mob!
     
  18. celticbhoy1989

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    the huns and others (heart fan that ran on the pitch) dont like lennon because he is a manager where in his first year could still win us the title and not only that the passion lennon has for the club they dont like because they wish they had a manager like lennon.

    my m8 says the same he is a sunderland fan which says everything but they havent got anything solid just a few daft things he has done which still dont stand for anything lennon should go through!

    but my opinion on it all is that no matter what happens in football nothing like that should be going on because i h8 rangers asmuch as the next person but i wouldnt even dream of sending walter or mcoist a h8 letter never mind a bomb.
     
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    I agree that most fans dislike Lenny because he is one that all fans love to hate because of what he says and does (at time even i cringe) im sure there are a few name i can throw out there of players that we "hate" Ferguson, Novo, McCann. Teams such as Hibs, Killie, Motherweel will dislike him for what he says and does BUT the Rangers and Hearts fans HATE (despise) him because he is a Catholic and that is a fact i stay in Gorgie and seeing and hearing the amount of sectarian chantting in the bars last night was shocking they have as much of an issue as the old firm do
     
  20. Bhoy Brian

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    One point that none of them can argue with is that all this bigotry begins in the home and until parents take responsibility for ending it then the kids are just going to follow their lead and it will never end