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Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Lewis Kerr, Jun 19, 2023.

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  1. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    It definitely is flat for the moment. A defeat has just compounded that in the short term slightly.

    Days like yesterday highlight how much we will miss Jota as well. Even Mooy.

    It's been a bizarre summer.
     
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  2. joemc

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    I believe that it's a natural thing when going for greater talent they will wait and pick the best offer at the last moment, unfortunately that means we could lose out and we don't get the time to bed them in properly.
     
  3. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Something doesn't feel quite right.

    I don't get why he'd come back had he not been promised significant (in terms of Scottish football) funds. He'd already achieved everything here so unless the board offered him something mental why return?

    Also, Desmond clearly had a massive say in his return so nows the time to show why. Annoys me that he only appears when the manager decision is required then slinks away into the background to not spend anymore money.
     
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    I think there is truth in that but even so you'd think there would be more urgency in our recruitment, already a few games into the new season, out of the first cup competition and here we are still needing at least 4 or 5 quality players in the door.

    It's all a bit half arsed tbh, valuable time has been wasted and now there is an urgency, especially off the back of a poor result like yesterday.
     
  5. oh bhoy

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    mcgregor has been pish so far,hes playing like he aint fully fit/ carrying an injury ,we wont be dropped or rested so he should be moved into the more advanced role ,we have been completely overrun in midfield thus far kwon and iwata should get given a chance ,if not them sign some *
     
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  6. 1884

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    Hi guys, Leicester fan in peace.

    Having watched bits and pieces of your games this season and saw BR comments after the game yesterday, it really seems like he learned nothing down here and you guys are going to experience what we had to go through.

    His biggest weakness is his ego. He thinks he's better than he is and I think that transfers to certain things. He thinks he can play players out of position because he's a good enough manager to coach them into it. He thinks he can play players that are clearly not good enough because he's a good enough manager to coach them into being good enough. He thinks his plan A is so good that he doesn't need a plan B.
    Couple that with the fact that his brand of football is horrendous and nothing is ever his fault (it's the pitch and the fact that Celtic apparently need match winners).

    Wishing you luck for the season but I fear the worst. I initially thought you would be fine this season and the rot wouldn't set in until his signings started to outnumber Ange's squad since BR can't sign his name but it appears that, that might have been optimistic.
     
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  7. celtic warrior

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    I said it in the controversial opinion thread.

    But with Rodgers back... I'm just not feeling "it" so far this season
     
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    No offence mate but you come with an already negative viewpoint because of what happened at Leicester, it's understandable that you are bitter towards him, we ourselves were at that point when he first departed to go to your club.

    We've had an early blip, but i believe we will have another successful season and Rodgers will get it right, granted he isn't perfect.

    A lot want him to fail for various reasons, as a support we should stick together and get behind him, close ranks rather than turn on him right from the off.
     
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    Was it horrendous when he was guiding you to 5th place twice, an FA Cup win, and the latter stages of a European competition?

    Or did it become horrendous after you started selling players and he was getting very little in the way of money to replace said players?
     
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  10. murphy88

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    One thing I would agree with from the Leicester fan is that Rodgers certainly does have a big ego. In fact, it’s only lesser than one other man at our club in my opinion. No prizes for who, and I would be lying if I said I didn’t have the fear that he was the man playing a part in us * about in yet another transfer window. Something that we all felt was a thing of the past, when the same man was heavily involved at the club.

    I’ve been relaxed about the transfer window as we didn’t have CL qualifiers. It’s ripping the * now though that we are at this stage of the window still needing at least 3 starters.
     
  11. 1884

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    Listen, I'll credit the guy for the success he gave us. It wasn't all bad and I apologise if my post insinuated that, but it got very bad the more influence he got here and I fear you have been took in to a narrative created by the media down south as to why that was.

    Brendan Rodgers spent around £270m in 4 seasons at Leicester. He was definately given money to spend. Now you could argue that our net spend was still decent but it doesn't change the fact that the players he spent the budget on where terrible and out of the 17/18 players he signed only 3 (4 if you count Tielemans who was already here on loan when BR arrived) actually improved the starting 11.
    As for the narrative of us continuously selling players from under him, it's just not true. 4 first team players in 4 years is reasonable for a club like Leicester, especially when he is given the cash to replace them. You'll also never hear about the season before last when we didn't sell anyone and gave him £100m to go see what he could do and we were poor. Granted we finished 8th but that doesn't tell the whole story as it wasn't until the 4/5th from last hame that we actually secured safety from relegation.

    The truth of the matter is that we got to a point that we COULDN'T back him anymore as we can only register 25 players and we had a squad of 26 players that HE signed on massive wages and long contracts (which isn't solely on him but the board too) that we couldn't shift so signing anymore would have meant that we would have been paying guys to train for at least 6 months. So in short, giving him as much control and backing as we did lead to a situation where we couldn't anymore which is when he turned publicly on the owners for not backing him.
     
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    At the beginning of his tenure aye you could say that but losing mooy, jota and starfelt and the lack of signings to replace is a big blow
     
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    I agree with this and have thought it since he came back in. I don’t know if he’s trying to keep a low profile or what not but yesterdays after the game was the first time he has really shown any sort of variance from a very flat domineer to date.

    I hope it has lit a fire under him and any thoughts of this is going to be easy are gone because there doesn’t seem to be that drive about him so far that you want in your manager.

    I am also wary of has he come in with a perception this is all going to be easy pickings and getting a decent wedge for doing it was too good to turn down and just keep him ticking over?

    Either way it’s time we start to see a team playing how he wants us to instead of this hybrid approach at the moment and he starts to show why we have paid the money for him.

    See this notion of teams coming and having more of a go against us, it should be suiting us as it gives more space when you use your quality to play through them. What I worry is we have let the quality of our team slip without properly replacing it, never mind upgrading it.
     
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    Welcome to the forum

    Tbh Rodgers’ appointment divided the support, I for one didn’t want him but he’s here and we will get behind him. I’m not really sure how his tenure will go this time? He won’t have as much control over transfers as he did at Leicester as we have our own recruitment team.
     
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    Aye, you're welcome for taking Congerton BTW! Lol!
     
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    No thanks
     
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    My issue is this .....if they wanna wait and pick are they the type of hungry enthusiastic players you want a la big ange method , I enjoyed the ....get them in early system let them settle and bed in ,it gives you a clear picture of the tools for the job before starting so to speak , hence why we have anger at the result and we have an excuse of a certain change of policy that is glaringly obvious and all the spin off stories the media will wanna create off the back .
     
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    Lee Congerton…

    I had erased him from my memory. What a wage thief.
     
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  19. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Agree with all this.

    It just all feels a bit flat. It's weird.
     
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    All those outgoings have been known or on the cards from early on in Rodgers tenure so I don't particularly agree that it changes much. Getting £25m for a player we would probably have accepted £15m for is the opposite of a problem really. Not replacing him, or using the money is the issue I'd say.
     
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