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Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Lewis Kerr, Jun 19, 2023.

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  1. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    I got this impression from his interview after the match today but probably looking too much into it. I hope.

    We need to back him. A split in the support or anything like that just fuels the media and plethora of wallopers already out to get us.
     
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  2. johnfife1959

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    For him to make that comment, says to me that he was happy with the squad, happy with the scouting and happy with his ability, now 3 games in he needs quality!!! Ffs its always someone else's fault, he inherited a fantastic squad, he said so himself.
     
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    For me he doesnt know his best 11 and he has struggled to implement his style of play.

    He needs to take control and start to impose some sort of direction and style in this squad. At least now he will have leverage to go to the board and demand what he needs.
     
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    What he had available today from that squad is not what Ange had. How many key men from that have moved on or are not currently available? CCV? Hatate? Jota? Perhaps even Starfelt and Johnston arguably too. Plus Talylor and Hart can't play in Rodgers' system.

    Meanwhile Rodgers' team is still being built.

    Look, I'm prepared to admit that this definitely strengthens the argument of the people saying that we need to be making our signings earlier (I mean, I still don't agree personally, but it's not a crazy POV and clearly today strengthens that argument); but blaming Rodgers for this is something I just can't get my head round.
     
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    Blue spies matey..get the banning finger armed :)
     
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  6. PaddyJamieson

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    So * angry about that today to be honest. For so many reasons. Giving the huns a lift and a huge chance to lift the first trophy is a kick in the teeth. We had the opportunity to improve and put the boot on the neck and we've * it.

    I was strongly against Rodgers when his name was first floated and got a wee bit for that. Still have massive doubts. It's early doors but we have so much work to do. Big caveat is the board have * him with the recruitment. Our chance to go to the next level and leave everyone in our wake and what do we do? Reign it in, aye, cos that always worked in the past. I want to see some proper signings coming in over the next couple of weeks or frankly it's a disgrace.
     
  7. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    Only Celtic could convincingly win a treble and then immediately throw away a cup straight away.

    As always with us, we never build from a position of strength. It’s inexcusable.

    Ange * off but we then had the lift of Rodgers joining, new contract for Kyogo. Building a bit of momentum and excitement. What do we do? Not make any decent, first team quality signings.
     
  8. PaddyJamieson

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    It's a disgrace to be honest and if there's one silver lining from today I hope it's that it shows how * poor the board have been until now this window. Every single * could see what we've needed for the last 4 weeks at least and we've done * all. Need to get the finger out but to be honest at this point I've not faith we'll do it.
     
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  9. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    I dunno if it's just me but so far it feels like he's not really putting his stamp on the club yet. I don't mean in terms of style of play I just mean it almost feels like he's still not even here it's a bit weird. I think it's maybe because I'm still recovering from what has been a whirlwind summer. I'm finding it hard to explain what I mean through a post :giggle1:

    Like it's been a couple months now I just feel as though maybe he's lost a bit of that arrogance that made him...aye we hated it sometimea but to me at times he's looked a very different guy to the one that left in 2019. Maybe he's matured and it'll come to be a good thing but I feel as though he's just lost something in his demeanour.

    Maybe I'm just hungover and over analysing but aye. Geez a bit more mentalist Rodgers.
     
  10. PaddyJamieson

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    Rodgers 100% shoulders some of the blame. Not all of it, but it's mad to suggest he doesn't shoulder some. He's come in and made changes to the playing style which - at this moment in time - have us looking less coherent and less of a threat. Yes, he's lost some key players but the changes to style are on him and so far it's not really been working. Now that could - and hopefully will - change, but he absolutely shoulders some blame for today.
     
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    That's the thing mate. The board and much of our support believed they were building from strength by employing BR.

    A lot of us could see the dangers in his reappointment but we're given a bit for saying it out loud.

    I think everyone's a bit deflated after that one.
     
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  12. PaddyJamieson

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    There's a lack of *puts on Rodgers voice* intensity. In every facet really, just doesn't feel like there's much personality there just now, and that's reflected in the football so far. When he came first time around he completely revolutionised the club and the football we were playing. Still waiting to see anything like that happen this time around.
     
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    He best hope he’s not behind in the league by 1/1/24, or he’s in for a very rude awakening.
     
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    Of course he's going to expect the team to play his way! It's exactly what Saint Ange of Postecoglou would do and did do too. It's what all good managers do. He has to think of the whole season ahead. The problem is that he hasn't been given the players he needs to do that yet and the impression I have from his interviews is that he's as upset about that as we are.
     
  15. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    You've summed it up quite well.

    I think because he's come in to a different scenario than he did the last time its almost as if he feels like maybe he doesn't have to change too much or he feels a bit awkward? I think he looked in his initial reveal very nervous and I dunno, I feel like there's still something needed like a spark. A win away at Ibrox, for example.

    He's definitely changed.
     
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  16. PaddyJamieson

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    I disagree, mate. Ange didn't have his players at first but his style was clear and some of the football was unreal even before he really got his players in. He had Ralston and Taylor playing inverted full back, Welsh playing it out from the back. He even had Adam Montgomery looking decent at left back and left wing.

    Rodgers hasn't successfully implemented his style yet, and the changes he has made have made us less effective. That's on the manager. No doubt he is also at the mercy of recruitment, but he has an excellent squad here and one which should absolutely be capable of playing the football he wants to play. I mean, he said as much when he first joined.
     
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    2 choices at this point, back the manager or do what the huns and most of the MSM want us to do, turn on him and create a state of internal division that will be nothing but harmful to us.

    Losing is always a sore yin, but ffs give the manager a chance instead of this endless negativity.
     
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    Firstly, I think Ange would also have struggled with the currently available players on a pitch like that.

    As for Rodgers, why can't you judge his team when he's built it? Ange lost like 3 of his first 6 games and we stuck with him. Whatever you think of how he left us, Rodgers has achieved more than enough as a coach to get that same trust.
     
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    I think a few really big signings to lift the support, a win at Ibrox, and suddenly the whole mood will shift. It's what needs to happen and still what I expect will happen. But that expectation is feeling more like hope with every day that passes without transfer news.
     
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    Nail, hammer, head. This is honestly the best post I've seen on here since I came back on the forum.