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Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Lewis Kerr, Jun 19, 2023.

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  1. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    While everyone is indeed entitled to an opinion on the success of the board or not, what gets me is the ones who are convinced they know better and constantly go on and on about how the board are full of individuals who are not fit for purpose, useless at their jobs, only interested in their salary/dividends, continually * up transfers, lack the vision to run the Club and on and on the list goes.
    The problem here is they utterly ignore the board have been selected and approved by a billionaire who probably knows a few things… and have/are all successful individuals in their own right I’d imagine… while those making the most noise probably didnt even run the school tuck shop but they know how to run a football club better.. football manager really does have a lot to answer for :giggle1:
     
  2. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    That’s me done with this * board… * useless * need chased….:56:
     
  3. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    By the same token, the evidence over the years from a footballing perspective has made fans feel this way. Countless * transfer windows, failed pursuits or top targets, lack of a proper scouting set up, hiring sons, cousins and no doubt uncles into key positions.

    Are we just supposed to say nothing, question nothing and go along with it all?:giggle1:

    It's by no means a disaster. But I feel like some fans look across the city and just use the old "it could be worse look at ra Huns haw haw" line. Rodgers wants what best for celtic as do fans. I'm sure the board do as well but I think there's definitely a lack of football orientated minds in there. Are they successful business men, lawyers, professionals? Aye definitely otherwise you ain't in that position. It doesn't mean they know everything about developing a modern football club though.

    The fact we still don't have a DoF in the modern era is wild, to me. Reason being I can only assume certain people don't want to lose control.

    The football structure still needs overhauled. I don't doubt the boards competence as business men or solid financial minds. There has to be a mix though.
     
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  4. Luis1967 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Agreed.

    Also a guy like Rodgers was never gonna come out and say he was absolutely fine with the window. He’s got too much of an ego for that. IF things did go pear shaped in the league he has an already made excuse to fall back on, so of course he was going to mention publicly he wanted another striker. Everyone knows though we have more than enough as it stands to see out the league.
     
  5. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    There's no doubt we're a well-oiled successful business, staffed by competent business people..

    However, when you fail to deliver the bare minimum that the manager asks, the minimum that any ordinary fan looking on can see is required.. then it's clear that business acumen doesn't always translate into the footballing world..

    Whether we've run a tuck shop or a FM team or whatever.. :56:
     
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  6. FrankMcCallum

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    Sorry, mate.

    None of this makes sense because you’ve never ran a football club.

    May as well just shut the forum down.
     
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  7. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    I watched the 20MT podcast today.

    They summed it up pretty well. It's a continual theme over years.

    Ange came in, recruitment was pish. Rodgers first time, recruitment was pish. Even back to Deila, scepovic turns us down and we go for Kramaric, invite his agent to CP, then we turn around and go back to Scepovic snd leave the formers agent standing outside as he famously said "ill never deal with celtic again".

    Ange publicly asks for more support. Rodgers asks for more support and eerily says similar to ange in that we have to be braver and clearly he hasn't been forward enough with the board.

    I am missing probably 20 or 30 examples over the years. Maybe more. Could go on all day. I'm genuinely bewildered as to how some fans can't see the common denominator here.

    Aye we signed Jota and Tierney is back in the summer. Great. Fantastic signings. Does that mean we shouldn't be tweaking anything with the footballing structure and it's all great? Ofciurse it doesn't.
     
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  8. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    I'll just shut up!

    We should probably stop voting for PM's as we haven't ran a country before.
     
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    Right. Successful individuals are always bang on and shouldn’t be held accountable.

    Don’t know what world you live in, but there’s a bit of a gap between billionaires, and folk who haven’t ran a tuck shop, or whatever other term you want to use for the subservients who aren’t allowed to discuss what they can see with their own eyes over a sustained period of time.
     
  10. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    It's really quite simple.

    We knew kyogo was leaving for months before the window opened. Had months to prepare. We accepted an offer for him. Had a full month in a window to conclude a deal any deal. Even on loan. And we couldn't do it.

    And some fans want to believe there's no disconnect or issues there. It doesn't take a genius to see that there's something up.

    "World class in everything we do"
     
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    It really depends on what you're taking from his comments and interview.

    But it's quite obvious to me no matter your opinion that he is covering frustrations in order to not derail the season or create negative headlines. It's quite obvious. He basically said it himself.

    He said about not wanting to bring negativity into the players mindset. It's so obvious he's not happy but if people think he is then, fair enough I suppose. I don't think you need to be a body language expert though.
     
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    So what if that other club was open to selling. Suddenly they came into money. (And they did) so back tracked and refused for any price (going by recent director comments they did) what have we meant to do? Sure we can go buy some backup palma, but rodgers doesn't want the sqaud littered with *. So we wait. We've now time to formulate a plan. Transfers are never simple, especially if your going after a high calibre standard of player.

    What the board done wrong was selling before getting a replacement in. However I bet that deal is the only reason they let us get jota. So imo * happens, but atleast the type of player we're signing seems to be alot better than recent years.
     
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    Whatever way you look at it. Kyogo left (whether he was playing pish or not) and we have failed to replace him WHEN the manager publicly wanted one in. That's a failure and the recruitment team, board or whoever else deserve to get pelters for it. It doesn't make you any less of a Celtic fan.
    We went for Kvistgaarden and didn't get him (that's fine it happens) BUT we should have 3 or 4 others lined up scouted and ready to enter negotiations with. Should even have a loan list ready to go for emergencies no? Or is that wrong?
    Just seems very * to me

     
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  14. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    I stupidly thought we'd changed, as the summer window was excellent.. but even then it was last day of the window stress.. which highlights how inept we can be..

    It's as if they realise we need a DoF but have appointed Tisdale as a sort of jack of all trades Head of Footballing Operations which allows them to maintain total control of the direction of the club..

    There's no sign Tisdale has been able to influence anything as of yet..

    Whilst our CEO remains silent, always..
     
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  15. James Gold Member Gold Member

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    The manager asked for a striker and further clarified that yesterday. We didn't get one

    He also laboured the point yesterday we knew Kyogo was wanting to leave for months. We had no plan in place for a replacement

    He wanted to come out the window stronger and acknowledged yesterday we come out this window lighter

    He also stated the squad as a whole is tighter than he wants it to be.


    Thats coming direct from the horses mouth. The fact we're at the stage of not being able to have opinions because we've never ran a club or dealt with transfers is just daft. What is also daft is this weird positive spin that some people are putting on the fact we didn't just sign a striker for the sake of it as if that is deserving of praise
     
  16. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    I just don't think that having that amount of time to target and sign anyone should lead to noone at the end of the window. I don't think that's a crazy opinion to hold. Especially as we are continually told how much work is going on in the background etc, months to know that a striker was likely going to be required. Even with the LB situation. Rodgers is saying that we always knew KT was returning in the summer yet it still took us till deadline day to get a fallback option after letting Valle go. Just weird. A fallback option who hasn't played LB in about 8 years.

    I get not signing Kvistgaarden for 15m or whatever at this point.

    But the fact we couldn't find a suitable loan even for 6 months or just any sort of option Rodgers is happy with surely highlights issues.

    I didn't even expect us to BUY anyone by the end. And neither did Rodgers evidently.

    We could go round in circles, I just can't see the massive positive spin that people are trying to put on this. Seen this movie too many times before and I assumed every other fan had as well by now.
     
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    The impression I get is that Tisdale is here to see whats wrong with our set up and advise on that basis. The summer will be the true test as to what he's actually doing.

    Would be nice for a bit of transparency on that front as well.

    CEO remaining silent isn't surprising but again, transparency would really help a lot of this. Even if he was to come out and give his vision for the club. I feel like we know what Rodgers wants, does Nicholson really align with it..
     
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  18. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Bang on, for me.

    The comments are there in black and white. But because he didn't come out and say Nicholson is a specky * in front of the national press he's 'happy'.
     
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  19. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    Aye, that's it..

    What's the vision every head of an organisation publishes a vision, strategy etc.. the lack of communication and transparency has always been an issue..

    If they're not careful I'll start bumping and necropost my old DoF or Fan Ownership threads:56:
     
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    Christ for everyone's sake I hope we spend £50m in the summer..:56: