Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

I agree with that as well. The most honest, humble and awkward time for him was coming back. The original interviews he did then were at times, a little uncomfortable.

He's back, I'm glad he's back and if he's successful, the club is successful.

Ultimately that's all we want. I do think he'll stay with us for his contract as well. I hope the powers above don't take advantage of his reasosn for being back this time as you've stated.

 

I don't think it's anywhere near black and white to blame the board for our failings.

Tell me, how many successful transfer windows have we had over the last 10 years? We had Rodgers first season in 2016 and Ange's summer and January windows during the 2021-2022 season. That's 3 successful transfer windows out of 20, the rest range from average to abysmal, there's clearly a pattern here that goes outside the managers.

Of course Rodgers himself isn't perfect, I think it's clear he had a hand in the Phillips deal last summer and there was the Dembele debacle back in 2018, but I'd be more than willing to lay almost all the blame on our board who clearly have no interest in progressing our club past being better than the huns, which is such a low point to follow.

Ange's second season, both the summer and January window, were utterly abysmal and it showed in Europe. Last years window was abysmal and it showed in Europe and in the league, if we had a competent scouting network we would be finishing the majority of our dealings come August, with one or two deals being left til the end, not the 4/5 we currently need.

 

I don't want to make this an Ange vs Rodgers thing because that happens too often and i don't think it's ever constructive, but if you're wondering what a manager can say in this situation, Ange gave us the perfect example after we lost in the CL qualifiers. He called them out, respectfully but clearly, and it worked.

I get you think people romanticise Ange's time here, and fair enough, but I think you equally give Rodgers too easy a time. Any other manager would be taking some blame in his case, where he's had such a poor record in the transfer market consistently across his career. Does it mean he's the only problem? No, of course not. But he's not exempt from criticism.

Anyway, I'm impressed with him over the last wee while and still have hope we'll have a decent window come this time next week.

 

It would also be daft to start openly questioning the level of player in the first 11 at the moment. We all know the likes of Taylor, Scales, Ralston, Forest, etc, aren't of a level we need to be. But Rodgers has them pretty much maxing out what they are capable of. It's very difficult to openly attack the quality of squad to send a message to the board without impacting the morale of players who are currently playing very well.

 

Rodgers being consistently poor in the market is a complete and utter myth.

Is he perfect? No, but he’s not as bad as some make out. When you factor in the final two windows with us in his previous stint, when he was calling out the board for signing wingers and players he had never heard of, it’s pretty evident that the club weren’t bringing in players he wanted.

 

So what do we do sit back and let that fat beady eyed pot bellied north Korean looking rat * pig snide condescending * of a chairmen walk all over us. He's a * cancer.

Poor guys scunnered beyond belief look at him if he walked and exposes the * people wouldn't be disappointed in him he would be lauded.

 

What the * are you on about my was regarding criticism to Rodgers, your post is completely different.

Genuinely feels like you've responded to the wrong post here.

 

Yeah, no malice towards him for this shitshow. He's nowhere near Lennon levels of defending his puppet masters.

If we don't back him properly after last summer's * show then the board must be hunted, simple as that.

Sell our best player for a record fee and bank the majority with a weaker squad than last season? Nah that's the final * straw.

 

I completely disagree with the first sentence. All you have to do is go on Transfermarkt and look at his record to see how much he's spent on total * throughout his career.

The other side of that is that he improves players you wouldn't think could reach the required level, which is brilliant.

 

Aye sorry mate * phone am fuming incase you didn't notice lol

 

All good, tense times over the last week

 

Much more hits than misses that's for sure.

Also, @HTG I think we fundamentally agree on where the problem lies here. I've said millions of times this is Desmond's/Lawwell's mess. I'd be partying for days if they both left the club tomorrow.

I just don't have confidence in Rodgers in the transfer market either and find it very difficult to entertain the idea that no blame should be attributed to him.

 

I'm torn on this. On the one hand he's worked with some * recruitment structures at both us and Liverpool, but has been on record as rubber stamping a lot of the transfers. At Leicester and us I think he was explicitly at fault for holding on to players for too long - but was this down to knowing they wouldn't be replaced with similar quality? Leicester owners were reportedly struggling during the pandemic and our recruitment was/is a shambles.

He seems to be able to spot an attacking player and 100% improves certain players who are receptive to his style of man management but doesn't seem to be able to eye a good defender or cycle a squad over 2-3 seasons. That's my take on him anyway and I watch quite a bit of English football outside of watching Celtic.

 

A couple empty stadium strikes would 100% make them listen but will unfortunately not happen. To many happy clappers

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'Scandinavian Stadium Strikes' (SSS) Sounds like a very effective way of sticking it to The Man. You go girl.

 

What can he realistically do in public?

As Sween said, he can't criticise the quality of the current squad too openly, as that would be terrible man management. He can't criticise the board too openly, as that initiates an open power struggle at the very point when the board need to be focussed on getting deals done rather than office politics and their own power. He can't credibly threaten to walk at the start of the season if he really is a Celtic fan (as he claims) and if really does regret what happened last time (and I think he does otherwise he wouldn't be here).

As far as I can see, he's saying everything he realistically can say in our press conferences. Hopefully he's being much more forceful behind closed doors.

 

That interview was a * white flag fir the transfer market.

Happy with the squad he has, hopefully bring in some depth.

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