Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Put some of our fans in the scouting team and we wouldn’t be any worse off than we currently are.

 

You know what they say about assuming, eh?

There's a difference between criticising with actual points of reference, as opposed to "it's aw his fault" style moonhowling without any knowledge of the inner workings behind the scenes.

Which I' sure you would be well aware the point I was making...

 

See this balanced outlook just isnt acceptable, although it seems you get accused of being a happy clapper by folk who haven’t a clue or seem to think FM is the blueprint to running a football club, if you take a balanced view.
Seriously the irony is mind blowing.

I know @JC Anton always argues for a fans rep but even he must groan when he reads some of the claims guff posted. Imagine if one of these roasters became the rep ffs

 

Is it beneficial to the major shareholders if we are sitting with umpteen millions in the bank when it comes to the share price and dividends that follow?

 

There’s points of reference littered throughout this forum, on which people are almost unanimous in agreeing that those is a position of power are underperforming at best.

You have no knowledge of the inner workings of being a football player or a politician either, but I’m sure you’ve trusted your eyes and instincts at some stage and used the evidence available to you and have been critical.

It’s allowed, and in this case justified, particularly when the those who are critical are contributing to their wages and dividends.

 

My knowledge of football recruitment is limited to championship manager pre 2005, and yet in the last 2 windows I would have delivered as much as celtics recruitment team.

On a more serious point, what exactly do you think the chief executive and chairman of Celtic are accountable for and are judged on? The players and manager deliver success on the field and are judged accordingly. The fans plough money into the business regardless of performance. And the exec are rewarded based on financial targets that come from those two factors. If I took over tomorrow I am pretty sure I could do no worse than our board currently do (at least at a material level). They have created the easiest gravy train going for themselves by setting their performance targets so low it's actually difficult for them to fail.

 

Don't bring me in to an unholy alliance with you two..

 

Point being?

If you've saw the posts ive made or at the very least the tone of my posts, I haven't criticised anyone for criticising Lawwell.

What I have said is folk generically blaming Lawwell individually without any reference to back it up, for example...

"* Lawwell, it's aw his fault!"

"Oh right, what in particular?"

"Cause he's a fat * wae a heated driveway"

Obviously that's a comical take on it, but pretty much what you see posted by folk.....a lot of folk!

 

Again, I haven't criticised anyone for criticising the board for things they should actually be criticised for.

They should be held accountable for our successes on AND off the pitch.

Domestically, with the exception of one catastrophic covid season (and the season after Seville), they should be hailed for having almost total dominance since 2000.

European wise? Abysmal. We havent progressed far enough in Europe and that's done to investment in the playing squad, among other things.

Do they earn their money? I really don't know.

One point I did make, as a devil's advocate type comment, was regarding Lawwell's reported £3m p/y salary was that surely a guy who is running the entire club as CEO (or was) I'd say probably if you judged him against a random signing at £3m playing 90mins every weekend, well then you can probably weigh it up.

 

When the * did I get dragged into an alliance with Tim?

 

I'm not a foaming at the mouth board hating type of guy. But they have almost zero ambition (beat rangers), they set themselves no meaningful targets, and they take full financial advantage of the monopoly/duopoly that exists in Scotland.

Measuring Celtic success in Scotland is valid but it feels akin to measuring Coca Cola sales versus Pepsi or measuring Microsoft operating system sales versus Redhat. It's pretty tough to sink a tanker at sea and if a board in charge of a monopoly decide to measure success by hoarding revenue and staying in pole position then almost any qualified person can replace them with no impact. Especially when, in the case of football, consumers will buy whatever the sell regardless of how much they invest in the product.

I think we are being sold a pup

 

Listen, it's a catch 22 situation. We beat the huns at the end of any season to win the league we're * ecstatic! We all know Europe has to be better, so we should at least wait and see how this season pans out before rolling out the pre-empted criticism on that part.

Few weeks to go of the deadline for signings, keep the critique of it on ice until the window shuts, then go

 

Edit: this post is better in the other thread

 

When Brendan Rodgers stepped on to the football managerial ladder, he did so at the relatively young age of 35 after his senior playing career was abruptly stopped at 20-years-old due to injury.

His coaching studies over the years prepped him for the step up to management and Celtic are now reaping the rewards of his dedication to managerial education.

On Sunday the Irishman takes his Double-winning side through to the capital to take on a Hibernian side overseen by another young manager in David Gray, who took up the Easter Road post just 10 days after his 36th birthday back in May.

Hot on the heels of seven years as a Hibs player, there were three caretaker stints in three successive years for Gray, and this following year he took up the role for real after the departure of Nick Montgomery.

Gray now faces his first home game of his first full season as manager against a high-flying Celtic side, and Brendan Rodgers said: “He’s a club legend, he led the club to one of the greatest days in their history and he’s now making a step in to become a manager.

“I’m sure he’ll be really excited about that, and really excited about his first game at home as the manager.

‘But for us our philosophy is we always prepare for a special game - being the next one, so this game is also a special one for us, and that’s what we’ve prepared for all week.’

“But, I’m delighted for David that he’s got the opportunity.”

The manager added: “It’s always sad when you see the likes of Nick move on, but David is a young manager at 36 years of age and it doesn’t seem that long ago that I was 35 myself starting, it’s gone so fast.

“But I’m excited for him, he’s at a club that he knows really, really well, he’s had three caretaker stints there I believe, so he’ll feel that now is the right time to step forward. “

 

Get this one sorted plus 1 or 2 others in. OK. Let's do that then. Genuine quality, first team starters and we gor from there. Not the 4 I would have hoped on top of Idah but. Get it done.

 

1 or 2 more makes it feel like he's dampened his own expectations of this window now

 

We won't realistically get a better manager than Rodgers. * back the guy. If that means you have to spend 7-10 million each on a LB & CB then so be it!
The lack of ambition is scary.