Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

I 100% buy that Rodgers is doing a poor job with the players available to him. But even when he goes, nothing will change.

The board will keep him around as their whipping boy even as the league slips out of sight. And once he goes, their * signing policy, their poor hires, their backroom nepotism - all of it will continue.

The ire directed at Rodgers is well-warranted but he's not the architect of our decline, the board are. Until we get shot of them, this fiasco will just repeat with subsequent managers.

 

Chiming in on this.

I don’t know if they’re better than what you would call our first team but it’s very possible they’re better than what we’ve seen from them.

Since the start of the season we’ve witnessed a decline in performance by just about every player in our squad. Some maintained a reasonable level longer than others, so it is very possible Rodgers is the reason why those new players are also not performing.

Kyogo, Cal, MOR, AJ, Taylor, I could go on.

How about the Hatate debacle. A key player last season but at the start of the season Rodgers has an issue with him.

Even Palma started reasonably well. Has good numbers but now looks ineffective. The whole team look bereft of ideas and look like they’ve had the life sucked out of them.

This all reeks of a group that are being poorly coached and poorly managed. They simply don’t appear to be buying into whatever philosophy and style he’s trying to impress on them.

 

Comming in he had no idea how to play with Kyogo its shown

 

I remember after the first few friendlies he said he saw Maeda as a striker, he's never tried him there since that comment.

 

Just seen this on bbc:
Rodgers should be concerned for his job because he has a win ratio in his second spell at Celtic that is 10% worse than Michael Beale's when he was sacked as Rangers boss.

That is shocking

 

Imagine if Celtic actually showed some ruthless ambition and binned him off and got a new manager in who is known to play a far more agressive style?

Yeah right, would never happen

 

Get him sacked and get someone in who actually wants to play decent football. How many players have regressed under this style of football being played? Can say he doesn't have his players but the football will still be the same passive side to side pish.

The amount of lies and contradictory statements he's made since coming back has been laughable as well

 

While I didn't want him back and his football is proper grim (after 10 mins, I'm usually doing other stuff while 'watching' as it's so effing boring to watch) the board need to take most of the blame.

The biggest FU that rodgers could do to the board, the SFA, Sky and the corrupt refs (and even us if wants) is to win that £50m and let the blue tarts go under as they have a £9m court case coming up in August...then walk. That would be some class revenge.

 

He needs to go.

How can anyone defend that or think it's acceptable.

 

Having no idea wouldn't have led to this mess. It's his pre-conceived ideas and desires on what our best striker should be doing that have ruined him.

 

This originated from a Bill Leckie article in the Sun. I had a read at it and can’t disagree with anything he said.

 

He himself has came out and said he has final say on the signings, no doubt a few were in the pipeline pre-summer when he came in but his management of these guys has been * poor regardless of his level of involvement in their recruitment.

 

Here’s the article mentioned above.

Brendan Rodgers needs to turn it around fast at Celtic or prepare to pay price, his record is WORSE than Michael Beale’s.

BRENDAN RODGERS says he’ll take the responsibility for where Celtic find themselves. In which case, he’d better do it by turning things round fast — or prepare to pack his bags. Because right now, his record second time round is no better than Michael Beale’s was at Rangers. And we all know what happened to HIM.
Beale won 31 of 43 games in charge at Ibrox, drew four and lost eight. His 72 per cent win ratio was pretty high by most standards. Yet anyone could see he was the wrong man for the job, that he wasn’t up to the job.
Well, Rodgers has won 22 of 35 games so far this season, drawn six and lost seven and has a win ratio ten per cent WORSE than Beale’s. A fact that suggests that it’s only his past reputation that stops his effigy being hung from every lampost on the walkway into Parkhead.
Now, I’m not saying saying for one minute that Beale’s a better manager than Rodgers. Most read in Football. That would be as disrespectful as it would be inaccurate, when you look at the CV of a man who swept all before him first time round in Scotland, who has lifted an FA Cup and was the proverbial bawhair away from winning a Premier League title. The stats don’t lie, though. The league table doesn’t lie. The reaction from fed-up punters to the dross they are paying through the nose to endure doesn’t lie.

Maybe most of all, though, the lost look in his eyes doesn’t lie. We saw that look time and again as Beale floundered so far out of his depth that his club blazer should have come with a light and whistle for attracting attention. Now, Rodgers is starting to get it too — the slightly glazed expression, the air of detachment, the passive language that suggests all the bad stuff is happening somewhere beyond his control. Everything seems to be swirling around his head like a fog he can’t get hold of.
He might claim to be taking responsibility for damaging results and performances, like the 1-1 home draw with Killie. But even as he spoke the words they sounded like the kind of soundbite under-pressure gaffers are expected to trot out in post-match interviews. The kind Beale trotted out more and more the longer his agony dragged on. The kind countless other gaffers turn to when they start to realise it’s just not working for them.
Bottom line?
A man of the Brodge’s calibre should be grabbing a title-losing situation by the throat. Instead it’s quite clearly choking him.
Take two Old Firm wins out of the mix — and, sure, they were huge — and his has been an abysmal return. It’s one littered with sloppy, sludgy, performances that must make fans wonder if they had hallucinated Ange Postecoglou’s two thrill-a-minute seasons at the helm.

I’ve written it before and this latest damaging result makes it well worth repeating — Celtic are playing like a team with all the joy and excitement and freedom and flair sucked out of them.

Hanging on for 89 of the 90 minutes to beat Ross County 1-0.
A last-gasp penalty to win at Easter Road.
A draw clawed out at Pittodrie.
Taking until first-half stoppage time at Dingwall to break down a side who had been reduced to ten men after ten minutes.
Drawing 0-0 at home to St Johnstone then having to come from behind to win 3-1 in Perth.
Rock bottom of a Champions League group with four points and a goal difference of -10.
And then there’s what Derek McInnes and Killie have got into the habit of doing to them. The way they were pressed and harried and — yes, let’s say it — bullied by the Rugby Park side yet again on Saturday speaks volumes of a manager in McInnes who knows exactly how to set up against the opposition.
And another in Rodgers who simply isn’t learning from bitter experience. Before this setback, Celtic had already gone to Rugby Park twice this season and lost both times.
Were he a rookie, Rodgers might just get away with that, having a bogey team. But this is a guy with a record to be envied and a salary and ego to match.
This is a guy who was quoted for jobs like Spurs and Arsenal and Manchester United while he was making things happen for Leicester.
Yet here he is, back at Celtic and managing as if he IS a rookie. Managing, let’s be honest, like Michael Beale. Talking like he’s got it all under control, like he knows some great footballing secret the rest of us aren’t privy to. Yet failing time and again to back up his words with displays that carry what he’d like to be seen as his stamp.
I’m sure his response to all this would be that his team have won nine and drawn two of their last 11 games, that they haven’t lost since mid-December. The reality, however, is that in that timeframe an eight-point lead is now a two-point deficit. The reality is that all the momentum is currently with Gers. The reality is Philippe Clement has his players and their fans charging arm-in-arm into the business end of the season. But Celtic’s hordes are close to the same full-scale mutiny they staged when ten in a row was evaporating under Neil Lennon three years ago.
It’s 48 days and five more league fixtures until Rodgers takes his men back to Ibrox, where last time he hugged each one in turn as they came off with a 1-0 win under their belts. As the Gers fans hurled abuse at their beaten players, Beale was already up the tunnel to prepare his soundbites.
He never recovered from losing that day.
Neither will Rodgers if he’s still playing catch-up seven weeks from today.

 

It’s funny because everyone accepts he is a bullshitter, but takes this as gospel.

 

Then he will forever be tangled in his own web of lies. Its no wonder our players look lost on the park with someone like that running the show.

Guys not the answer no matter how much you try and defend his failings.

 

Point still stands. If we weren’t prepared to back him and allow him to bring players in to suit his system, don’t hire him to begin with. That’s on the employers, not the employee.

 

I’ve been one for defending him on here because I believe that there are far bigger problems at this football club and if we want real change, that has to start from the top.

However, it’s now time for a change while this is still salvageable. He needs to go for me, now.

Will that change anything? It might give us a new manager bounce to get us into gear for the remaining 12 games and create a title challenge but let’s be honest here, the title is over if we don’t do something and they’re not going to sack him.

 

I agree.

Meanwhile he still is taking players backwards and playing dogshit football with players that Kilmarnock, St Johnstone and Hearts would bite your hand off for, and getting schooled by those clubs' managers.

He's failing miserably with what he's got, which you seem incapable of admitting.

 

I heard that Rodgers includes "Winning the Champions League with Reading in FM 2010" on his CV, but a journalist looked into it and found out that he'd saved the game before every match and if he lost he reloaded it and tried again.