Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

If he feels backed by the club if actually fancy him to stay bit longer than his first stint. That is if we want him to.

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I think it is rewriting things a bit if we shift all the blame to the board/lawwell and say he needed backed more, him and congerton were given a lot of control over transfers when they came in and wasted a good chunk of money on duds, there were obvious misses like McGinn we can look back on and feel the boat should have been pushed out a bit, but in general I think a lot of people were wary of giving them even more money to spend, when a lot of it wasn't being spent well and our wage bill had gone through the roof.

 

That's what I thought, sorry I took another job? No yer no and you don't have to explain yourself.

 

Have you never worked for a company, left then went back? If you have did you go about sooking up everyone's hoop once you returned? Didn't think so

 

Yeah he's not going to apologise and it's a bit daft to be expecting one, seen people say stuff like he needs to address it so we can move on, he left years ago, you've had more than enough time to get over it and move on. I have reservations about him coming back because of his transfer record and style of play after the invincible season, but holding a grudge still because he dared to leave for an EPL gig? Nah. The timing was *, but it's not like there's a transfer window for managers, you take the jobs when they're available.

 

Totally agree, feel a bit sorry for him tbh. Even at the time the fans knew there was something off with him and the board, then came at no surprise to many when he left.

He doesn't need to ask forgiveness from me as there was none needed. He was offered a better job at the time (on paper, im sure the owner was still alive before the helicopter crash, this impacted LCs vision also) I'm no for holding grudges, I've learned from experience that people do or say things that upset others, but if you take them all to heart you'll live a sad life.

 

It’s not rewriting history to say his ambitions outweighed our boards. Look through the list of transfers when he was here. Count up how many were loans or £1.5m and under. There was a ridiculous amount. Then when he said about Shved and wingers, it then questions how much control and say he did actually have. The fact he spoke about the difference in our scouting in his first interview speaks volumes.

Listen, I’m not saying he didn’t sign any duds first time. There’s not a manager in the history of football who hasn’t. I think it’s incredibly harsh to simply say his transfer record was abysmal however given he was bringing in a lot of players on peanuts.

 

I absolutely love your rants and big long posts and often read them more than once but l was joking

 

Burds don't walk out on you guv'nor...............they're asked to leave

 

Fair enough. This BR doubter is on board with that. The big man's hair is receding though...T minus until The Kojak is back!

 

Celtic fans can forget Brendan Rodgers apology and Green Brigade petted lip is total waste of time – Chris Sutton

It looks like not everyone is fully on board with Brendan Rodgers coming back to Celtic when you look at the snippy response from the Green Brigade.

They are not shy about coming forward and voicing their opinions and reappointing the former manager seems to have gone down like a lead balloon with some of them. They’ve made their feelings known – and they can do what they like – but I will ask them this: what is the point? What are they going to achieve with negativity at a time when the club would be pulling together after Ange Postecoglou’s departure?

Celtic are the Treble winners and the dominant team in Scotland. They have also gone out and got the best possible man for the job in replacing the Aussie. The petted-lip routine from some is a total waste of time. If the Celtic board are going to back Rodgers with a big chequebook to make the side even better – then they should give their backing as well. I just don’t get the point of backlash. It was okay to be critical when Rodgers departed last time. Listen, I was critical as well and stand by that criticism.

But we are four years on. Is Rodgers to be castigated from now until the end of time? Is he to be publicly flogged forever more? What do these fans want? It’s taken huge balls to come back to Celtic this soon. It would have been far easier for him to keep his distance and if he really wanted another shot in the hotseat, do it years down the line. Instead he’s taken the challenge and the fans should at least accept it and look forward to an exciting future.

Rodgers will face the media and the fans and I’ve heard some people saying he should apologise. Give me a break. We know the way he left wasn’t great, with the side in the hunt for a Treble, but Neil Lennon managed to finish it off. Rodgers can’t be held accountable for the failure to win 10-in-a-row – it was two years down the line, for goodness sake.

I’d imagine the manager will come out and say he regrets the timing of his departure but it’s water under the bridge and the focus is on what happens next. And that should be it. There’s no need to drag him over the coals further. What fans should want to hear is the plans for the future in the short, medium and long term.

Rodgers has to have been told there is some cash to spend to take the side to the next level. That might be easier said than done, but it’s at least a start. It will be fascinating to seen the dynamic again with him and the club because it’s fair to say it got a bit strained towards the end last time.

Rodgers felt he wasn’t being backed enough in the transfer market, while Peter Lawwell felt he was thrown under the bus a bit by the boss.

Lawwell has changed roles but he still clearly is in a position of power and the fact Rodgers is back suggests something has changed. It’s funny, when you look at the recruitment in his first spell, he didn’t actually spend that much.

There were big outlays on the likes of Scott Sinclair, Olivier Ntcham and Odsonne Edouard. But when you factor in big money sales such as Moussa Dembele and Stuart Armstrong, Rodgers’ net spend over three windows was less than £10million. Now the talk is he’ll be handed £30m this summer. Whether that is the case, we’ll need to wait and see. But I am sure the target will be quality rather than quantity. He might be looking at the goalkeeper situation with Joe Hart not getting any younger, a centre back looks a must, I’d imagine another attacking wide player and maybe striker could be on the agenda.

Does he go and buy three or four £8m or £9m players for these role? This is not a squad that needs wholesale changes. A lot will depend on who leaves, but I’d suspect some of the players who might have been thinking about a new challenge, must have their minds changed with a new manager of this calibre coming in. You only have to look at his track record of improving players. Rodgers took some mild flak about some of his recruitment, along with talent spotter Lee Congerton, but there is absolute no doubt about his abilities as a coach.

Kieran Tierney, Scott Brown, Stuart Armstrong, Callum McGregor – they were all at the club when he arrived but Rodgers helped them take their games to another level. The likes of Reo Hatate, Matt O’Riley, Jota and others should be thrilled about the prospect of working under the new boss. Rodgers will have his own ideas of his to play and, although he’s an attacking manager just like Postecoglou, his teams operate in a slightly different manner.

While Postecoglou was fairly rigid in his style, with underlapping full backs and so on, Rodgers is arguably more flexible. His Celtic team evolved in shape with the development of Tierney and others and there were several different formations and styles, sometimes even within games. There’s been some amount of history rewriting about the first stint in charge, and some have attempted to downplay it because Rangers were rubbish.

But Rodgers did nothing less than an outstanding job when he was in Scotland. And you can bet Rangers fans will have secretly groaned when it was announced he was coming back. Rodgers is the the last guy they want to go up against and I doubt there will be any in the Green Brigade digging out the bedsheets for a protest banner if Celtic bury their rivals again. That’s why there’s no point moaning now, they need to get over themselves and behind the boss.

 

Looks nervous

 

* bless ye Brendan

Okay

 

Someone's already clipped that on twitter

 

Clearly was prepared for "* off ya rat".