Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Eh? Desmond sent his minions over to Spain to convince ratboy to come back. He wasn't chasing us.

 

If he can't motivate most of a treble winning team, then he isn't very good at his job.

 

Was confused about that too but I genuinely think he's chucked it now and it's just an easy payday.

 

We drew with St Mirren 0-0 on the 22nd. Bain, Mikey Johnston, Ralston, Welsh, Scales and Moffat started that game. Abada played the game as a striker.

We beat St Johnston away 3-1 on Boxing Day. Our lineup that day was a 4312:

Barkas
Welsh
CCV
Starfelt
Scales

Juranovic
Bitton
McCarthy

Rogic

Abada
Dawson (came on after 15 min).

 

These are the players he said he signed off on though, it’s not like he’s come in mid season with someone else’s team.

Even though they are *, they are a lot better than the players Hearts, Killie, Hibs and Motherwell have at their disposal. Yet these teams have all taken points off us, mostly because they are just willing to fight more and do the dirty work.

Rodgers hasn’t got a consistent tune out of this team all season. Rangers were * woeful under Beale and 8 points behind, now they could easily be 4 in front before NYE.

Out of LC in first game
Out of CL - didn’t win a meaningful game

Things can take time for sure but you want to see positive signs of improvement but that’s not the case here. Any other manager would be getting chased.

 

And thats the confusion, because the negative parts that gets aimed at him - self absorbed, ego, his general hubris - we can absolutely say with confidence he wouldn’t accept coming back without being sure and having safety clauses in the 3 year contract as well if his agents good whoch I assume he would be the level of football he’s operated at…


There’s nothing in it for him to accept, if it was the same circumstances that he left in. We also had shown a track record of backing a manager he replaced, but that more and more looks like Ange’s sheer force of personality, charisma and drive was what was pushing the full club into a more dynamic, competent direction.

But I can’t imagine Rodgers meekly accepting whatever scraps he’s been given either. But he’s not that force of nature that Ange is, he’s not the force of nature that BR was first time round even.

 

He was getting linked to decent teams down there before he came here, and the sad thing is he’d get more money managing a Leeds or a Notts Forrest than he would us. Record contract and all

 

Regardless of whether or not some signings were already identified, he virtually gave his blessing when he signed his contract on the dotted line...

 

He had more negotiating power with us though. We chased him and Desmond made him prime candidate.

Was basically a win-win for him. He comes back and gets results in the CL and he's the Messiah again, restores his reputation etc.. or he fails and gets the chop but has secured a fat severance pay when the time comes.

 

That’s been more impactful than it has any right to be I think, before then BR was unbeatable up here domestically and in the cups. There was a certain level of self defeat that teams approached him with by the end up, and he’d just took over a treble winning side. Then he went out with a whimper, that aura fades then.

It’s an intangible thing in sport but it tracks, it’s like us at Parkhead in Europe 2000’s, then we got scudded. Then it went away.


It’s like McGregor getting beat for the first time or Ronda Rousey in UFC. Suddenly, they’re not these invincible monsters and everyone can tag them

 

And that’s the crux of it, negotiating power, if we didn’t make it clear and make it not just a verbal vague promise that his demands are met for how they’ve to work together with him and back him, why would he be here? But that hasn’t happened so far. And he’s made a few comments regarding that.

so * is happening there

 

For me, he hasn't got what he wanted and has now chucked it. The board either now give him what he wants or pay him off with the boot. He's in a win-win position at this point.

 

He knows the board though. He worked here for 2 and a half years. I thought he was meant to be a smart man. Did he really get swindled at that * Spanish villa?

I just don't buy the whole "the board have * him over" thing. The board have * the fans over for 20 years, that's undeniable. But a manager they knew and practically begged to come back here, paying him the most money out of any manager ever to do so?

It makes no sense to chase him when he was on a hiatus, pay him millions and millions to come back, then all of a sudden be like "HA! We're not really getting you the players we promised you over in Spain Brendan! Put that in your pipe and smoke it!!"

Then once the window closed and more recently at the AGM you get Rodgers singing their praises. This whole narrative makes no sense to me. They are negligent arseholes and Rodgers doesn't really give a *, he just went along with it because he thought he'd dominate up in Scotland again. Now he's found out it isn't that simple, he's throwing players under the bus, using every excuse under the sun in the process.

 

You're probably right there. That would make sense as to why he's defended the board publicly. Must've thought a treble winning side would walk it with minimal effort from him.

 

Brendan wants Chris Davies back and a bag of cans!!!

The whole thing is stale. Same old board there, same old recruitment strategy, same ol coaching team Kennedy, Strachan etc.

Rodgers style is dated. His stats over the seasons with us have declined. His slow passive style allows teams set up and entrench themselves, whilst we just knock about about creating little. Teams and coaches here aren't that bad. They've wised up and moved on. We haven't. And we're slow and easy to bully.

Despite injuries, he still doesn't know his best 11.

Dunno what to make of him now. I don't get his tactics, I don't get his reasons for coming back.

It's complete off. Fed up wi it all.

 

Bitterly disappointed with what we've seen so far.

I don't know from a footballing point of view how we can justify carrying on like this.

We've seen no improvements in anything at the club whatsoever apart from Scales and O'Riley. Everything and everyone has gone backwards.

Rodgers needs to go now so we can actually have a go at the title.

 

I'm predominantly in the Rodgers should be doing better camp, but the board are also far from blameless and buying players like that is a big part of the problem.

I honestly think they saw what Ange did buying young-ish players like Abada, O'Riley, Jota, CCV, Hatate, etc and how their value has skyrocketed, and thought we'll have a bit more of that. I know that's been the Celtic model for years, but it was especially evident that was the aim this season, and going too far in that direction has come back to bite us.

The problem/difference is that after decades of playing a certain way, Ange has a very clear idea of who will fit into his system. He's not just buying young players, he's buying young players suited to his style of play and players who are ready to play right away. He's highlighting their talents which in turn obviously raises their value.

Kwon, Yang, Tilio may well have potential, but unlike most of Ange's signings, they're nowhere near ready to make an impact. That then weakens the squad, and because we didn't bring in quality to supplement the young signings, it results in players like Scales, Johnston, Turnbull, Forrest, etc. having to play significant minutes.