Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

I still can't believe he left Philips on the park

 

Took CCV out for the last 5 games last season and it was a * show.

 

Think it's a stretch to call a team with Hart, scales, Taylor, phillips, and Mikey Johnstone a much superior team to anyone else tbh

 

A fair point, but I do think he'd have an idea on how to get the best out of Kwon, Tilio and Yang. They were signed off of a list made when he was still there.

 

Yes I know it does. Leicester was his most recent job though, did he learn anything from his time with us previously when in the Leicester job? Who knows? The way it ended with LC and the way his team was struggling should have sparked some self reflection. Alas I don't think BR works that way.

 

Balogun Lundstrum matondo dressers and lammers. Although much superior might be pushing it

 

Kwon wouldn’t have got a game, Yang would have barely featured either and Tilio is not long back from a long term injury so would have hardly had a kick either. Iwata couldn’t get a game under Ange, and he is streets ahead of Kwon. Yang is woeful as well. The recruitment was getting poorer the longer Ange was here.

 

What exactly do you want him to be self reflective of?

Let’s not be silly now. His spell at Leicester, as a whole, was largely considered a success. And rightfully so. 2x 5th place finishes, missing out on the champions league on the final day on both occasions, winning an FA Cup… it ended terribly but there were clearly problems within Leicester. Don’t think they spent a penny in their last 3 windows under him because they were skint.

That said, they were far too * good to go down and he probably should have walked earlier. There were problems from all ends with Leicester, though. While he needs to take a large portion of the blame for their relegation, he wasn’t the only culprit. I think, given how successful he was with them, he more than earned the patience and time he wanted.

Every manager will be self reflective after things end badly at a club. What do you exactly want him to be self reflective of, though? We chased him. Our board made him the number 1 candidate for the job. Do you not want him to play a certain style of football? The same style of football which has been successful for large parts of his managerial career?

 

There's nothing specific really. I remember how his team played before he left for Leicester and granted he had some excellent games up here first time round it did become quite turgid at times and I see that repeated to some degree at Leicester. I remember his Swansea and Liverpool teams playing excellent football as well. He strikes me as quite stubborn at times and rigid in his tactics etc and I don't think I'm alone in thinking that. Good managers can adapt to an ever changing football environment, tactics etc evolve and some managers can't or don't stay upto date so to speak and get labeled "a dinosaur ". My concerns are related to that. Hope that makes sense.

 

Crazy how much we've regressed in such a short space of time.

 

A lot of this goes back to recruitment.

It must be difficult to play the style of football he's known for with the current squad.

There is a total imbalance on the park with the left hand side being so poor. Palma has done well but he definitely lacks pace and is always wanting to come inside. That wee * gimp behind him constantly wants to come into midfield and hide so we essentially have zero width down 1 side of the park and now to compound that we have our 1st and 2nd choice right wingers injured and are having to play a collection of players that are all so poor that somehow mickey * Johnston has been deemed the best of them.

It's almost impossible for him to play the style he normally does with being dealt such a * hand from those * lawwell *

 

It's not really.

Most people were in agreement by end of last season that the depth of squad wasn't good enough. That was pretty obvious during the last 4 or 5 league games.

It's not something that's happened quickly it's the consequence of 18 months of pish poor recruitment Anges last 2 windows were dreadful and this summers was a * distater.

This drop off could just as easily of happened last year with 3 or 4 injuries to key players

 

Can you see the board giving him the budget to bring in players he wants? I'm not so confident of that happening. I get the feeling he gets who he gets and has to just work with it.

 

* knows mate.

I think closer the gap is come January the more likey they are to give him more backing.
I also think despite the praise he originally gave them in public he will have left them in no doubt that the job the recruitment team. are doing isnt good enough.

Whether they * pay attention to it or not we'll find out over next 6 weeks.

 

I mean, it just does - unless you’re saying we simply accept that there doesn’t appear to be a proper, systemic approach to scouting.

 

Do you remember Ange's first 6 months? He dealt with far bigger injury/squad related issues than anything Rodgers has had to deal with so far. We won away under Ange with two full backs and a player making his professional debut as our front three. Yeah we've definitely suffered with Abada and Maeda being out at the same time but at least Rodger's has had actual wide players, and centre backs for that matter, to choose from.

 

It's difficult to know exactly who has been properly scouted and it has to be balanced, the summer window wasn't acceptable.. but the scouting/recruitment deserve credit for...

Abada, Jota, CCV, Starfelt, Juranovic, Giakoumakis Johnston, O'Riley, Palma and there may be another couple that may come good I'm hoping Nawrocki and Holm in particular.. that's quite a diverse pool.. we don't sign them without a degree of scouting..

Also if we're saying Ange was solely responsible for Kyogo, Hatate, Maeda and Iwata then is he also responsible for Ideguchi, Kobayashi, Kwon, Yang and Tilio jury still out on Oh.. again difficult to know..

We've signed too many projects and failed to strengthen key positions and the recruitment over last few years has been a mixed bag.. but the assessment needs to be balanced..

January can be a difficult window but we need it to be a success and maybe we'll get a better idea if there is a proper scouting and recruitment process in place, when the window closes.

 

The only sympathy he gets from me is the injuries to major players has been awful. Abada, Hatate, CCV, Nawrocki, Maeda, A. Johnston in pre-season.

Obviously this has further exposed our lack of depth and poor recruitment but missing that much quality as well as taking Jota, Starfelt and Mooy out is essentially 8 first teamers from the treble winning side.

Still raging he's been schooled by McInnes again though.

 

He did mate aye but he also lost 9 goals in 3 games at end of last season when he had pretty much a full strength squad minus CCV.

The reason the squad is so weak is due to him bringing in/agreeing to signings of absolute pish like Siegrest, Bernabei, kobiyashi, Hacksabanovic, Abildgaard, Oh and arguably likes of Kwon, Tilio and Yang.

That's about £15m worth of absolute dross