Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

You going to stand up and boo him?

Doubt he’ll hear you over his 58,000 adoring fans.

You do realise that posts like this are only going to convert people on the fence to the appointment, in to supporting him? Keep it up.

Also, the game at Tynecastle was a league game at which point we were eight points clear. Don’t let facts get in the way of a good story though.

 

Or when my feelings about this flip for the gazillionth time today:

This is how is feels to be Celtic
Treble done again as you know.
Brendan Rodgers is back to put on a show.
To Dublin we go!

* Apparently next year's EL final will be in Dublin. Come on! that has to be fate!

 

Am I the only one here who is less concerned about the way he left before, but doesn't really want him back because he's.. overrated?

 

Behave yourself

 

There will be absolutely no contrition of any sort from Rodgers. And it would be dangerous on his part to do so.

Again, to iterate the contrasts, why is it none of those people holding grudges (including myself) harboured the same disdain for Anges departure?
They both left us for EPL riches. Both left us in the middle of the notion that something special could be built. Both left us in fear and disillusionment about who would replace them? Both left us for massive salary increases?

Because the manner of Rodgers' departure DESERVES derision.
Ange left us, for what is highly likely, a once in a lifetime job opportunity, at a club who could quite literally, given the right conditions, challenge for both domestic and European honours, as well as a reserved seat at whatever form the Super League will take. It's a TRUE professional step up, and an opportunity almost impossible to conceive at any of the other big clubs. The conditions really just aligned for him to be offered the job; Spurs having been down every conceivable management route to try to improve their fortunes already.

Rodgers left us for Leicester City. A team with zero European tradition, and an almost non existent domestic trophy cabinet, with almost zero chance they will ever see a league or European trophy in the next two decades, and with neither the infrastructure nor finances to break into the top 4 on a sustainable basis.

There are levels to these moves. All the chat about Leicesters league win is merely window dressing in an empty shop. Even when Rodgers took over at the crest of their EPL power, the chances of them lifting a league title again were about the same as me winning the euro millions and getting to put the shoes to Salma Hayek whilst riding Space Mountain with a family of itinerant unicorns.
It's actually part of the reason why I'm not as bent out of shape about this appointment now, as two top 5 finishes are indeed a praise worthy achievement.

The constant "professional" excuses for his departure only serve to highlight the differences in his departure compared to Anges.

Rodgers, at the height of his success here, was absolutely, 100 percent CERTAIN to be offered EPL jobs of a similar profile.
A mid table / relegation zone EPL side with designs on achieving permanent residence in the EPL.

Obviously the conditions at CP have to be taken into account, the breakdown of relationships etc etc.
But the TRULY professional decision should have been to finish what he started, finish the campaign, leave the club with his reputation intact, and wait the short time for a similar EPL opportunity.

He didn't do that. And deserved every bit of * flung his way for doing so. ( Not the mad * obviously, that * disgusting).

I understand that we all have to get behind him now, and that we need to be unified in our support of the club. But airbrushing his behaviour with reasoning that is contrary to actual events isn't the way forward. Those who ignore their history are doomed to repeat it.

Forgiving Rodgers might be the way forward. But forgetting what he did is a dangerous way to move on.

 

its the form we have found since brendan's been around......still works we can keep the current song.

welcome back, mate, i look forward to our two seasons together before we cash in on you in the summer of 2025

 

Nope, I'm like that too. I have little faith he can deliver European progress.

 

I think the key here is the whole "hit the ground running" thing.
Probably one of the main reasons for Rodger's re-appointment is the expectation that he can "hit the ground running". We have a Champions League campaign and need to make great strides in the league from the first game.

In Ange's first season he lost 3 of his first 6 games. He wasnt expected to hit the ground running and was given a good wee bit of time to get his act together before fans started to judge him.

If Rodgers doesnt "hit the ground running" and has a similar start as Ange did in his first season then people will jump on it and question his re-appointment immidiately

 

The biggest difference isn't what you say but that Rodgers left because he was being dicked around by the board. Because he wanted to make Celtic a force in Europe again and the board were happy stopping at domestic success. It is the same reason Wim gallantly walked away from us. Because he wasn't willing to compromise on what he knew Celtic deserved.

Ange on the otherhand had nothing but the boards full backing. Had the board willing to offer him everything he needed to make Celtic a competitive force not just domestically but in Europe and he was still dealing behind their back to force a move elsewhere.

 

Ange arrived in COVID quarantine conditions, about a week before our league started, with a flood of players either on the way out the door or in the works of doing so... Rodgers is arriving with a full close season, a settled and happy squad and an impression that we intend to strengthen to sharpen the players minds about being ready on day1... Not even in the same galactic proximity to the same conditions. I'm genuinely expecting us to be flying out the door for the league campaign, and I'd be really surprised if we drop much to start with

Edit: saying that, if he does make wholesale changes and it does need a bit of settling in time for it to bed in, I won't be throwing tantrums over it... I felt like that with Ange, so wasn't concerned that we didn't scream out the blocks, especially given that the refs * us in the hearts game, to remind me what he was up against in Scottish football

 

Exactly. One was being promised the earth by all accounts, the other wasn’t able to sign a player from Hibs because Peter Lawwell was quibbling over an amount he would have in the cup holder of his car. After guiding us through two CL qualifiers, that we know all too well how difficult they can be, raking in £60-70m approximately, but our board couldn’t find an extra few hundred thousand to buy John McGinn.

I have no anger towards Ange as I can understand why he has moved, but I also didn’t have any anger towards Rodgers when he left, because I totally get why he left as well.

 

It amazes me that certain sections of the fans expected an ambitious manager to put up with that just because he supported us. No decent manager with professional ambition would have stayed with us under the conditions Rodgers was working under, fan or no fan. You would think he left us in a mess or that we lost the league and cup that season or the following season the way they go on. In reality he left us in a strong position while firing a warning shot about the boards complacency, the complacency that ultimately lead to the covid collapse. He has consistently said that if the board had been willing to back him to take us to the next level he would have stayed. This week he has proven that wasn’t all talk.

Celtic were never anything but a stepping stone for Ange. He had no intention of being with us beyond last season as evidenced by how long he was engineering his move out. Nothing our board could have done would have prevented him going because he never saw a future with us his, ambitions were always elsewhere.

 

No. Have to agree, think he is somewhat overrated too.

He has been terrible in the transfer market for almost every club he's been at(don't know about his dealings at swansea or watford). I dread to think how he will spend our, rumoured, biggest transfer kitty to date.

He has done nothing of note in Europe, at any club, so I don't really understand where all the optimism is coming from that we are going to suddenly start making an impact on that stage.

Every job he has had since Swansea has ended in a cloud of toxicity. I kind of worry what sort of shape we will be in when this comes to its inevitable end, given said record in the player market and that he seems to have a habit of going in a huff when he doesn't get his own way. I mention that because, if the rumours are true and we're going to have a record breaking transfer kitty this summer, I certainly don't believe there will be the same outlay next year. That could start the grumblings of discontent early. A discontent that could drag on for the rest of his contract.

 

Interested to hear why you think he’s overrated? Yet has taken teams in the EPL to high place finishes like Leicester 5 twice 8th in his 3rd season won the FA cup against Peps city. Had Liverpool a whisker away from winning the league when they had no right to.

He had an ok record with Leicester in Europe a semi final In the conference league we’d all love to be in European semi final also decent europa run. Got us to champions league got a few results in Europe under him

so what is overrated about him then? A guy with his CV if he wasn’t Rodgers we’d be creaming ourselves with this appointment.

 

The way it seems to end at his clubs is a worry for me.

 

No matter what was happening in the background, the timing and manner of his departure last time was unacceptable and just because he has now returned doesn't mean that everyone should welcome him with open arms. If that's the way people feel about it, they are entitled to feel that way.

Rodgers will know that himself and so will the board..

However, he's here now and we need to move on and back the team under his leadership, uniting as a fan base..

We've got a top coach who's there to do a job and if he and Ange have taught us anything it's not get emotionally attached to any manager or player for that matter.

We're a passionate support but that's modern football and it forces us to be more pragmatic..

 

Yes that is true i apologise if that wasn’t inclusive of me, I was trying to get at the point we are supposed to be built on a core set of values and at the heart of it was the catholic faith, of which I am a member, but there seems to be a set of rules that shouts about inclusivity and one for all unless it doesn’t suit the narrative, but forgiveness is also a core value we were brought up on so all I am saying is people should look at the reasons and be a bit more forgiving of others faults in this case BR

 

I get what you’re saying mate.

Every religion is full of people who practice what they preach to varying extents. Some live by it and some just pay it lip service, most are somewhere in between.

 

I've muted anything to do with that guy on twitter. There's another one too, who's equally as * and cringe, he's also blocked. Get a red face watching them, it's embarrassing how folk like it or find it remotely funny.