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Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Lewis Kerr, Jun 19, 2023.

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  1. James Gold Member Gold Member

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    I agree with the shouts about the midfield Mcgregor is not suited to the role but out of the midfielders available tonight he was more suited than anyone else but moving forward I'd like to see a middle 3 of Iwata Mcgregor and O'Riley
     
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  2. oh bhoy

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    we went into games last year trying to win them ,i really havent a clue what rodgers plan is ,keep possession and hope for the best seemingly
     
  3. ddub11

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    Hes no balls,if he had he would have walked when the board didnt back him in the transfare window,he made it clear from the start we would go into Europe not just to make up the numbers but to compete and that ment investment.

    So he was either lying to the fans or the board were lying to him.
     
  4. Martybhoy53

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    Same old stuff:

    It's the overall quality," says Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers. "We need to have our very best players available.

    "What makes the difference is that bit of experience and genuine quality. That's something we can hopefully resolve over the next couple of windows.

    "This group has gained more experience and shown they can compete in some games - but we need to add quality. That's the glaring thing that stands out."
     
  5. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    I'm talking about his record for the club I support though. Couldn't care less about what he's done elsewhere.

    The point is he's chastised for his record here but people don't look at the bigger picture.

    Not glossing over anything

    Let's not gloss over the fact mate you've been desperate for him to slip up since minute 1. That's the only undeniably clear thing for me.
     
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  6. James Gold Member Gold Member

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    I agree to an extent we were 100% more attacking last year but still never won. If you gave me the choice I would 100% prefer to watch last years style to that pish tonight
     
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    The bigger picture argument doesn't hold. I'll say one word, and it falls apart: Shakhtar.
     
  8. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Eh?
     
  9. Lewis Kerr

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    I agree with most of your posts but I don't see us having any control in most of the games we've played this year. We are ignoring the fact that we've played against some of the poorest opposition we could face in the CL, bar Atletico.

    We don't create enough chances. We don't put teams under extended periods of pressure. All we do is keep the ball around areas of the pitch that don't hurt the opposition. We still concede silly goals and chances. We've lost 5 games, our goal difference is one of the worst in the competition and they said today on commentary that we are the team with the fewest attempts on goal out of everyone.

    So while we haven't been blitzed in every game, we've been utterly toothless and still come away with nothing. The end result is the same.

    We scored 3 and conceded 14 last year.

    We've scored 4 and conceded 15 this year with one game left.

    Where's the control in that?
     
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  10. Peter T. Lawwell Esq Chairman of Celtic FC PLC Gold Member

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    It's been pretty much the same as last season imo. Start each match playing some good football but without any real belief, go behind, fall apart around the 60/70 min mark, out after gameweek 5.

    Disappointing that we haven't managed to improve on last season, but understandable given the change in manager/players/playstyle/injuries.

    The team needs 1 or 2 big signings. Not just for their ability but to give the rest of the team the boost of having players of a higher level standing alongside them.

    We need to focus on winning the league now and getting in a top quality left back and goalkeeper at the very least.
     
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  11. Leone Naka Fan

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    Shakhtar have lost their money, their mostly Brazilian squads, their stadium, their home ground is in Hamburg for CL ties etc.

    Yet, they are competitive as *. With mostly Ukrainian players, they stand a chance of qualifying for the KO-s if they win in the last game. And they don't try tippy-tappy *. They fight and get results.

    Rodgers is overall, an idealist to the core, but in essence, an average manager. We are a poorly run club. Mix these two...
     
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    There's no way, ever, this board will change course.

    I can't process why he came back - there would have been other offers in England and he could have made double/triple/quadruple what he makes at Celtic in Saudi. It makes no sense. Incredible as it is, especially after what happened in the summer 2018 window, he clearly didn't get any assurances again this time round on budget/signings etc as if he had, he wouldn't have been going into the game tonight having to start Forrest, Yang etc and bring Johnston off the bench. Pitiful.
     
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  13. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    But last season we were world class and finished bottom and didn't have Rodgers! That's the difference.:rolleyes:
     
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  14. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    I don't think that makes my argument fall apart.

    One example and it's irrelevant to what I qas saying. My point was people are chastising Rodgers without looking at the quality of sides he's faced in the UCL
    Squads that would also hump Shakhtar.

    Also, if you want to use Shakhtar, 6 of their points have come against Royal Antwerp, who are competing at this level for the first time ever and are even worse than us. And that's saying something.
     
  15. oh bhoy

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    christ ,that tonight would make your eyes bleed. didnt even have a go at getting a goal just pass it for passing sake
     
  16. ILoveTheCeltic

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    To be fair we did play 70 minutes with 10 men in one game and 35 with 9 in another, both away games.

    We've also not really had a bench to call upon with new guys settling in and injuries. I feel the lack of subs and the reds did cost us in games.

    Been a bit like Ange's first season although he was in the Europa where we played quite well against Betis and Leverkusen yet I think lost 3 of the 4 games only actually winning 1 when we were out.

    The Ange performances were more open and end to end attacking and the Rodgers ones have been slower methodical passing around and keeping the ball but both pretty good considering the circumstances, Ange's team was a mess really and Rodgers hasn't been that bad but also not settled and not much depth either.
     
  17. Lewis Kerr

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    I know you love Brendan mate and you're a good poster but I do think you're blinkered when it comes to him.

    We can evaluate his tenure once it's over. Even if he loses the league or continues his * awful record in Europe with us, it will never be his fault in the eyes of some.

    He takes a large chunk of the blame for our European failings this year. The squad is atrocious but by his own admission he gets the final say on transfers and seems happy enough with the board. I'd have more respect for him if he actually applied a bit of that thing called pressure on them.
     
  18. Mr. Slippyfist

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    He was a fraud then, and he's a fraud now.

    If he can't walk into a domestic treble winning side and improve them, then he's not the right choice.
     
  19. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    I don't love him. I'm realistic. Unlike a lot of our support.

    In the same way you say "we will evaluate when it's over" even if we go on and win a double this season you and many others will still find fault.

    It's clear as day.

    Scales, Johnston, Forrest and Taylor at LB and * are expecting miracles.

    My overall point is his tactics haven't been the issue in this European campaign. I don't know what people expect eith this level of player.

    I'd also love to know people's solution whilst we continue to recruit like this and ignore glaring weaknesses, manager after manager.
     
  20. Lewis Kerr

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    But Jota and Starfelt.