Brendan Fraudgers!

You ignore them they can't debate with Ad hominem.

 

The club have goals. Win the league and qualify for the CL. Anything else is a bonus... It's a * business at the end of the day.

Right now, we'll maybe have people looking at a £5 million player and thinking - will this help us go further in the EL? Answer will be who cares because the money we would receive for reaching the next round may not be very good but if it helps us reach the CL in the summer... Sign him up.

They've always got the club's best interest at heart but will always try to achieve it at the minimal cost.

 

I suppose he Might indeed Be a German.

 

Capitalised nouns, and long words which are indecipherable to most English speakers - it would make sense.

 

They're not infallible, but I believe they have the club's best interests at heart. Their opinion of what's best for the club may be different to yours, but I still think the evidence points towards them trying to do the right thing, especially when it comes to trying to increase club revenue despite most of our revenue streams being totally saturated. The hotel is the most recent example of this.

I sometimes feel that the board are overly prudent when it comes to our transfer dealings, but I believe that's based on operating within a certain budget that's realistic for a Scottish team, rather than purely being driven by self interest.

Also, as for Lawwell's pay, from what I can tell he's not paid astronomically compared to others in the same position as him. He's also rejected more lucrative work at Arsenal, to stay and work with us.

 

He's not.

 

I know.

 

I bet you aren't French, either.

 

Well, im glad you can admit they aren't. As for the rest I disagree and have put forward my points as to why. I just think deep down PL and DD are in it for the salary and dividends and would walk away if someone came in and paid them out on their terms. Of course they would want to see Celtic still operating but only on that basis to run for a profit for Capitalists.

If the Hotel is an example then I don't know why the Board didn't do it years ago and the only reason I have heard from people saying why they haven't is because Rodgers is here. That once again implies the point that evilbunny stated that the Board shouldn't be getting overcompensated on fixing their own problems. 15 years to build a hotel (Lawwell joined in 2003 right after Seville), that in no way suggests theres any enginuity in the Boardroom. It only shows that they * up, fix it and go on as if they are infallible and to put it into perspective..... A Club the size of Celtic should have some sort of Hotel.

If that's the case then why have the Board apologised for not pushing out the boat? Why is that? It's constant within the history of Celtic we never ever build on strength.

I would disagree completely with that. He's paid the same in comparison to around the top 6 English sides regardless of what's happening on the Park, that to me is completely unacceptable especially when he is reluctant to push the boat out, that is by confirmation self-interest and he is only getting away with it under the current PLC structure. I don't understand this Arsenal nonsense either, he's kept with Celtic because he gets paid greater and gets away with murder up here.

 

I can only guess as to why it wasn't done years ago, but the continual upgrading of the area around Celtic Park, takes time. The planning and budgeting for a hotel will take a huge amount of work too. There's the chance that previously, a hotel wasn't seen as a realistic option. I'm not sure because I'm not privvy to the decision making process, but it's one of many examples of the club doing what they can to maximise our revenue.

I think the fact that Lawwell rejected a position at Arsenal disproves your claim that he'd walk away and paid him out. DD doesn't need the money.

Why would a club apoligse, publicly, for being prudent? It would look bad for future transfer dealings.

The Arsenal point wasn't nonsense. He could have left to work at a richer club, for better money, but he didn't. He chose to stay and further build upon the work he's done at Celtic.
I disagree that the club not pushing the boat out confirms self interest, that's just silly.

 

I’m not; I’m Scottish. I was just living in Paris.

 

I'm well aware it would and not under the illusion it wouldn't. Look im only going by the material that Club give us here and basing it all on facts.

I don't see why it wasn't done when we got Lennoxtown built, which, was funded by a share-issue, fact.

If he doesn't need the money, then why is he getting paid millions in dividends? (another fact) That's complete nonsense.

Another pure nonsense point - We left Kramaric in the rain for Scepovic. (another fact)

If you can show me he was offered a higher salary then batter in, I just don't believe he would go to any other Club without being paid a higher salary.[/QUOTE]

 

Do you think it would have been wise to try and fund a hotel at the same time as Lennoxtown? Clearly, Lennoxtown was a higher priority, so that's why that was done first.

He's a businessman who wants to make money, that doesn't mean he needs the money that he gets from Celtic.

It's not nonsense. If the club came out and apologised to the fans for not spending money, it would bring a lot of negative press and generally, would look bad for the club. I'm aware of that lad being left in the rain but I'm not sure what relevance that has.

Lawwell's salary in 2010 was reported to be around £700,000. The Arsenal interest came around 2008, with a reported £1m salary on offer, which would have been more than he was on at Celtic, at that time.

 

I love Brendan.

 

BRENDAN RODGERS has called for some respect towards his Celtic defence on the back of criticism during the first half of the campaign.

The Glasgow club have come under fire for some of the goals lost this season domestically and on European duty, including in heavy defeats to French super power Paris St Germain in the Champions League.

Calls from fans and critics for another centre-half have been answered in the arrival of former German internationalist Marvin Compper this window, but Rodgers still feels his defence has coped admirably during the opening few months of the campaign while working towards a defensively-robust 2018.

"There’s a lot of focus on our boys defensively but there has to be a bit of respect and reality as to who they are playing against," said the Celtic manager, speaking in Dubai where the SPFL Premiership champions have been training during the winter break.

“Celtic didn’t qualify for the Champions League and they had Virgil van Dijk and Jason Denayer at centre-half. Who do people want Celtic to get? If we can’t qualify with those two…

“I hear a lot of talk about ‘get a new centre half’ but defensively our team I think is very, very good but we could always be better. I think there is always shone around our central defence but we are a collective. We defend as a team and press as a team.

“The response to when we lost to Hearts [4-0 in December] has been great. Defensively to get four clean sheets, they can be tricky games especially on the back of the run we’ve been on.

"But what we have within our team is a happiness as to where we are at as a group. That allows us to reflect when things don’t go so well to go away and be better.

“There will always be criticism towards defending and attacking but it’s okay. We improve to get better in all facets of our game."

The arrival of Compper for this week's training camp in the Middle East was a welcomed boost for a Celtic side looking to progress against Zenit St Petersburg next month. However he wasn't the only one.

Last Saturday afternoon Patrick Roberts checked in with his team-mates at Glasgow Airport less than six weeks after sustaining a hamstring injury which was feared to keep him out for three months.

The Manchester City winger has not returned to full training as of yet but Rodgers is encouraged that the Englishman is already well ahead of schedule.

“Pat’s timeline was the end of February," he said. "We were told three months. He’s here and doing straight line running and February remains the aim. If it’s earlier than that then great.

“We’re waiting to see what’s Tom’s reaction is and we’ll see where he’s at by the end of January.”

Rodgers also denied rumours that Tom Rogic could be set for a move to China. The Australian internationalist is currently at home recovering from a knee injury which has kept him out since the defeat to Anderlecht at the start of December, but the Celtic manager is hopeful the playmaker will return to the fold soon.

“I’ve heard anything about that at all," he said of the China speculation.

“Yes, he’s a good creative player but we don't cry about that or go on about it. The players we’ve had out - the likes of Pat and Tom have been missing - are misses.

“Tom is a big talent and we hope we can get him back soon.”

 

I know he has to say it, but our team is anything but defensively "very, very good". Simply isn't true, and I doubt he even truely believes so.

 

Hopefully Brendan comments about the defence are just protecting players from the media! I would be extremely worried if those are his real thoughts especially about our CB position!

 

I'd say that's exactly what it is, he hasn't went out and brought in an experience defender for nothing.

 

Just finished watching the invincibles dvd. What a difference from last season So dynamic, direct, pacey, just a different machine all together. Our defence was still rotten though, so many times teams never took advantage of avoidable mistakes.

I don't know what's happened this season. Transfer speculation, too much squad rotation, players looking down on the league after last season, who knows. We're definitely not the same.

We're missing Roberts and Rogic something awful but even without them we should still be doing better. We blew away teams last season with our attack which covered up our defensive frailties, maybe we look so poor due to that side suffering from 2 important loses. We need to get a number 10 in and another winger that's going to run at opposition defenders. For the big squad we have, we're badly lacking in decent options in reserve.