Borussia Dortmund have signed sponsorship deal with weapons manufacturer Rheinmetall

Why is it OK for them to support the deliberate and constant killing of 10's of thousands of innocent civilians? * all nuanced about it. If anything it's much worse that Germany is encouraging ethnic cleansing yet again. Happy to have others killed if it benefits them seems to be your argument.

 

Yeh Germany is getting quite fascist and racist again only this time it’s Muslims at the end they are fed up with immigration … their a large Turkish population in Germany ?


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Turkey were the first government consulate in Germany after ww2 and led to a flux in Turkish migrants to Germany and were welcomed

 

The Turks have been in Germany since the end of WW2 and helped rebuild the country. There’s still a bit of divide in places but they’re quite well integrated generally.

Most of the ire recently has been aimed at the Syrians, Iraqis and Afghans that entered when they opened their borders a few years ago.

 

Aye, St. Pauli can away and take a * at themselves.

 

Public service broadcaster ARD ran a poll to see if people would prefer more white players in the German squad. 21% of the poll agreed.

I am surprised that anyone would run such a poll.

 

Just read that as well. That’s shocking.

 

I can't understand that numerous people would have been involved in setting up the poll, they must have received a reaction when asking people that question, and they still reported their findings. Nobody clicked and realised it was racist and they would cause a backlash.

 

This.

 

If that is actually up for debate in Germany that's pretty worrying. Must be some serious tensions there.

 

Hermany is a

not only Germany. European elections next Sunday, there will be a serious shift to the right in the EU parliament.

in my country almost 50% will vote extreme or centre right(Flemish part). In Germany 17/20% will be voting AFD. Left has completely lost it in trying to solve non issues and closing their eyes to what really lives with the people. And the right are just spouting one liners and dumb masses lap it up. Centre politics only cares about big bugs. First time ever i am not sure what to vote for!

 

I thought Dortmund was run by the fans or fan owned?

 

Did you even read my comment? I said that there's plenty of Germans who'd want nothing to do with it... However, due to a national shame they've inherited about the holocaust they have social and legal obstruction to how they can express or act upon that. The visuals the media would portray of thousands of Germans marching/protesting "against the Jews" would be unbearable! Other countries who were complicit by turning a blind eye can be more forthright, but most of the world already associate the Germans with jackboots and swastikas, when they actually have most of the strictest anti-Semitism laws in the world

 

Yes I read your comment. Not sure what the confusion is.

Propping up Israel in it's killing and maiming of 10's of thousands of innocents, soon 100's of thousands will be a more appropriate term given the deliberate starvation, is not justifiable.

Doubly so because of Germany's history. It's utterly shameful.

 

Tensions are increasing all over western Europe. The right wing, and extreme right wing is on the rise with things like immigration at the forefront and the economy is stuttering. It's pretty crazy everywhere right now .

 

Any defence company sponsoring a football team feels very grubby to me. Given they are not exactly selling tanks and bombs to the footballing going public, why do they even need to promote a bomb maker to football fans if not only to try and make weapons manufacturers seen are more mainstream.

In the context of Germany specifically its interesting that after a couple of generations that shunned all notions of national warfare they seem to be softening to the point where this can happen. Given the impact of Russia/Ukraine it allows the company to frame itself as a defender of western democracy.

And obviously the left and centre in Germany has a very different view of the Israel/Palestine conflict than most equivalent views in this country. From that angle alone, I don't think it's as controversial in Germany as it would be in the UK.