Boruc

U can't blame boruc for the loss, the defence is crap at left him in bad positions, part of the reason why other gk's are good are coz they have a good defence in front of them
and last time I checked it's how many goals u score that win u games, that's not borucs problem

 

So if he makes a blunder it's okay because the strikers can make up for it?

Shay Given had an abysmal defence in front of him at Newcastle for years and yet was still pulling off superb saves with very few mistakes. Practically any decent shot against us on target has been a goal this season.

Will you agree Boruc isn't half the player he was the 1st 2 seasons? He's a VERY average keeper now IMO.

 

I'm glad most supporters ain't in charge of our team. otherwise we would have about 250+ players in our squad. after every bad game or mistake you get dropped and replaced...

 

Boruc has made at least 10 big mistakes the last 2 seasons that has cost us big time.

 

This is exactly why i brought this thread back to life, i think he is overweight and seems to be too slow at times,as good as he is
i am not confident with this guy in goal anymore and after reading this thread there's a few on here seem to think along the same lines as me,its difficult to say if he would have saved the 2 at D.U
thats like saying Zaluska would have saved the 1 st goal in the M'well game

 

I agree with this I think he is living off past reputation aswell! I was a bit peeved to see him being brought back into the team so soon when Zaluska hadn't really put a foot wrong! Where is the good competition for places when he just walked back into the team and yes, made a blunder moreorless straight away against Motherwell! I think he's looked like a headless chicken since he came back, he has been needlessly running off his line all the time!

 

perhaps if our defenders actually defended like what they are supposed to do? then artur wouldnt be makeing all these so called mistakes?

 

I think Arthur is living of his past reputation as well, no way is he as good as he was in 2008.

Defence nothing to do with it we had same defence back then as what we have now.

Making too many mistakes, if it was Zaluska making these same mistakes he would be getting hammered by some fans.

 

I think no one denies he ain't on top form at the moment. his problem is that he has been brilliant, world class at times during his first few seasons.
Apart from some blunders he's still a very good and solid keeper, still the best in the spl.

apart from the obvious keepers (even they sometimes) , everyone commits mistakes, lets easy goals in. I can't name 3-4 goalies that are comfortable with high balls either. why are some people expecting our players to be perfect?

our defence has absolutely no confidence at the moment. sooner or later that slops over to the keeper. hopefully the mess will be sort out soon and I'm sure Boruc will find his form again.

Also some supporters seem to be waiting for our players to commit mistakes so they can slag them off on this board. when we win it's very quiet in here, if we lose, people can't stop posting and saying how bad everyone sucks. also those guys that boo after every single mistake. may be they should start watching real madrid or barcelona. we are celtic after all, not a world class team full of world class players.

 

QUOTE=Markybhoy99;1353922]One game. How many times has he saved us against the Shame? Or is he to be condemned as an Old Firm dud like Rab Douglas because he had one shocker?[/QUOTE]

Its not about one shocker,its about all his shockers over the last 2 seasons,if you read my post from yesterday,its about his next blunder, this worries me,we cant depend on our defence anymore
and with artur in goal, i always feel that he's not far away from a right clanger and with the huns around the corner,if its going to happen it will happen then.
am not saying Zaluska is the saviour,but would take the money now if a good bid came in for the man

 

also what happens if Zaluska lets in easy goals too? Is he gonna get replaced by our no3 or play Boruc again? you can't treat keepers like outfield players.

 

that has everything to do with it!goalies cannot keep every single shot you know and that is why if you have a good defence? then you will have a great keeper? so far our defence has been * poor for ages and boruc has done some terrific saves also(too much also may i add) so yes the defence have everything to do with it.

 

I think we need to cash in on Boruc masel

 

well you could say this about mcgeady,crosas,samy then i suppose.

 

My point being we had the same defence, near enough in 2008 and arthur was not making these mistakes, that he has been doing over the past couple of years.

Even for Poland he has been making mistakes, But was Brilliant for Poland 2 years ago. his head cant be 100% maybe thats the problem and he needs change.

Just dont think the guy is anywhere near what he was 2 years ago.

 

I've been wondering lately if the problem with Artur is that he isn't training hard enough. Tony Mowbray himself had a quote along the lines of 'he certainly doesn't like running much' which suggests to me that he might not be putting it all in at Lennoxtown. He definitely doesn't seem as agile as he once was and his body shape still looks different to what it used to be. Although it is better than it was last season.

IF, and I mean IF, Boruc isn't training hard enough then that has to be clamped down on. As much as I love Artur, and he's my all time favourite Celtic player so that is a lot, I would tell him to get his lardy * on the treadmill and shed a few pounds or else he's out the team.

This is all speculation of course.

 

Sammy yes i would cash in him no problem,none of the others
Boruc has lost his way and is not the same anymore, as a team we need to stop all the stupid mistakes for us to progress,we know about the back line and what needs to be done,like i said in my post yesterday i am a fan of Boruc and would want him to stay if he found the form that he had in the beginning of his celtic days,he is just not the same guy anymore

 

not what i was meaning! boruc is one of our top players and whats the point in selling our best and weakening our team? samy has started to grow on me with his recent performances and thats changed days to what i used to think about him.so yeah boruc has made mistakes? how many has skippy,nguemo,crosas,samy etc made also? have they lost their way too??

 

There have been a good few errors from Boruc has made that have had absolutely nothing to do with the defence, i think it depends in the situation! E.g.The defence had nothing to do with it last season against Hibs when Rankin scored from the half way line, sometimes the defence has been to blame but there have been clear cut Boruc errors that have been his own doing!

 

you all have to remember? last season he had a * load of crap going on in his private life that a blind man could see that was affecting his performance.yes the so called rankin squiggler was a shocker! but what about that world class save he did there earlier on in the season that we all raved about?

keepers makes mistakes too you know along ,with defenders,midfeilders and strikers * even coaching staff. but for me the main reason for (perhaps) his lapse in form? is down to that murder defence of ours.it doesnt help him much too.but of course he should be helping the defence aswell i suppose.