Champions League Atlético V Celtic Tuesday November 7th kick off 8PM TNT sports 1

All the * who are trying to take the * out celtic. * them

 

Even though you are probably right that their own team probably aren’t in Europe it still infuriates me reading their pish

 

Yes * them all however, I'd rather * them by not giving them the opportunity to slag off our club and I firmly lay the blame with our spineless, gutless tory * of a board.

 

We got annihilated by a six goal margin, mate.

Just take the roasting, or don’t read or listen to it. It’s a well deserved roasting.

Direct your anger to the people that have put us in this position, and the idiotic supporters on here who maintain we are a well run club.

 

Yeah,get it right up them.

 

Too long ago

If Daizen misses the ball, we probably beat Lazio at home. Last night was a combination of being a man down, a lack of investment, and naivety in Europe. Brendan has taken a few doings, trying to match top level teams away from home.

With the squad we have, he decided he didn't want another Hibs Therefore he risked this hammering, over being knackered vs the sheep.

 

Sadly that hasn’t stopped them before when we have needed strengthening particularly when we have a lead in the league or in a title race. I hope you are right.

I take a lot of the points about being limited by the Scottish game in terms of TV deals, attracting players, keeping youth prospects but there is so much that needs addressing with how we operate as a football club.

The term “control the controllable” is a phrase that comes to mind for me here. Can those running the club say that we are operating in a way that does that? Of the top of my head we could:

- improve our approach to squad management. We know our top players won’t stay long, accept it but look to sell them where possible on our terms.
- Given the environment we work in we should have players lined up for every position in the team as at anytime we could get an offer for one of our players that is too good to turn down e.g see Jota in the summer
- Youth development, is very poor, yeah we lose players regularly to bigger clubs but other than Doak I am not convinced any of them guys are going to reach the required standard. To have not brought through a first team starter since Tierney in 15/16 is a shocking return. We need to seriously consider if the academy is worth continuing or looking at alternative models based on signing 16- 18 year olds.

To have so many gaps in our squad, struggling for home grown players for euro quotas and carrying too many first team players are all controllable elements that are not being controlled at the moment. When you combine that with having the bank balance we do, it doesn’t scream a well run football club to me.

 

Seen something on twitter regarding our European record and quite frankly it was a disgrace. What was under the thread however was * happy clappers going on about the Huns getting no points in the group last year.

Honestly who gives a * about them and if were setting the bar that low then this club will never improve. Far too many people are just happy enough to be slightly better than Rangers and its weird behaviour to say the least.

We should be lynching the board for the millions they have cost us and the numerous embarrassments we've had to sit through in Europe (the board have cost us far more than anything the green brigade have btw)

I'm not asking them to splash the cash and spend 10's of millions on every player but that fabian rieder from Young Boys should be at least who were looking at occasionally (Rennes have snapped him up now) he would of cost 10-15 mil and would of improved us massively in Europe. Tons of players are available with European pedigree and yes they might cost a bit more but need to start being brave with this.

Questions need answering now as slightly being better than the huns can no longer be a priority.

You buy these better players and you will be better than them anyway

 

And the better squad you have, the more chance your top players would want to stay. I wonder if Henrik would have given us all those years, if he played in this era, under Lawwell's supervision?

This board would have sold him in no time.

 

100% - I'm not against signing projects but there needs to be genuine quality sprinkled in with these signings.

It's a * show. But oh well we might win the double then all will be forgotten about. Scunnered

 

That's a great point. Our punts/spending on players is the same as it was 10/15 years ago. Our way budget/structure hasn't changed in that time also. Calmac and Brooney o top scale at £35k a week. This needs amended also. As is our model. This is still the same. Buy low, and hope to sell high. Hence we always have a bloated squad.

What is the point in the B squad. Zero path for progression to the first team. So many youngsters leaving for other clubs, whilst the one ( Vata) who is looking at doing well, gets ignored.

But I have no trust in the board to spend to be proactive and progress. As long as we're ahead of the huns and have bank balance in thr black, that's success... to them.

 

We are all hurting today. I hoped for a draw and thought maybe 2 or 3 0 to athletic. Seen the game poor red card .. then heads went down 2nd half and no coming back from that once heads are down. We need 3 or 4 better players In the positions we all know. We can't let this game * up our season. The players today will also be hurting and humiliated and they will know how we feel. The board has to take this result on board and remedy it soon. Now lets move on, dont let they * across in castle greyskull think they have the upperhand now. They havent and wont for a long time .. they are still behind us and I can guarantee we will take 3 or 4 off them at the Xmas time match at celtic park. All teams go through bad results at.times maybe not as much as us in Europe but it what happens . Hopefully the board will give the cash soon to boost the team.

 

Grim reading...

 

Yes it is m8. Just hope we can improve next season

 

What part of what I said is incorrect? Only a few days ago a much smaller club with a much smaller budget beat the same club that has just battered us 6-0. All facts. Ok we had a man sent off. Would we have avoided defeat with 11 men? Unlikely, as most Celtic fans would agree. Maybe you should save your snidey comments for those who have made us a laughing-stock in Europe rather than being clever to me because I pointed out an inconvenient truth.

 

All I'm pointing-out is that getting a result or even just a respectable performance isn't beyond our means. Celtic FC is a big enough club with enough resources that it shouldn't be getting beat 6-0 off ANYBODY. That doesn't mean we are better or as good as these super-rich clubs but we should still be of a standard that we aren't being humiliated by them. Las Palmas showed what can be done with a proper game-plan, discipline and hard work. That is all I'm pointing out and I don't get the failure to see the simple point I'm making.

 

Did barca not get beat 8 2 in a champion league quarter final a while ago against bayern. As I said it happens at times so we learn and improve and get some good players in

 

Results like LP and Saarbrucken just go to show what can be achieved against a superior side. That is all I've meant here. If you set up well, defend well, cut out individual errors, are disciplined and work hard you give yourself a chance. Something we rarely do in the CL these days. If we do these things consistently then we may actually start getting results at this level instead of being the whipping-boys. That is all. You seem determined to argue about something that I would have thought was common-sense.

 

If you think losing to a team means we're matching them then good on you. I obviously have higher standards than you and I won't apologise for that.

 

Look, it's a single result. Even if you'd watched the whole game twice, studied the statistics, the analysis and all the relevant context of the game in detail, it would still be a bit of a stretch to argue from that the game implies anything about our result. As it is, you haven't even seen this game, which means you're building an entire world from a single data point.

It's just not a serious argument.