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Are We Falling Apart?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Bonobhoy, Dec 14, 2013.

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Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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What Celtic fans need to do is to stop being so * hostile against eachother. Lets start with this forum. Then everyone can unite and make their opinions heard.
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Wishful thinking.

Callum McGregor, Dec 15, 2013

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Skelleto said: ↑

What Celtic fans need to do is to stop being so * hostile against eachother. Lets start with this forum. Then everyone can unite and make their opinions heard.
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Oh good luck

wulliebad, Dec 15, 2013

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Think of the children......

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Think of the children......
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Think of the seats

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Well it certainly raises awareness and gets it in the news.
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So does smashing up seats in the section assigned to the GB! .. which btw shows no respect of the law in the 1st place. Completely contradicts the whole pont that football fans aren't criminals. If you don't want to be harrassed by the coppers, just don't sing those 2 rebal songs that are seen as "offensive" in scotland. There's plenty of other rebal songs that they don't see as offesive songs. Even if it wasn't the GB that did it to those chairs that day, that's what the papers reported so that's what people are going to think

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So does smashing up seats in the section assigned to the GB! .. which btw shows no respect of the law in the 1st place. Completely contradicts the whole pont that football fans aren't criminals. If you don't want to be harrassed by the coppers, just don't sing those 2 rebal songs that are seen as "offensive" in scotland. There's plenty of other rebal songs that they don't see as offesive songs. Even if it wasn't the GB that did it to those chairs that day, that's what the papers reported so that's what people are going to think
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Seats everywhere

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goodybhoy said: ↑

So does smashing up seats in the section assigned to the GB! .. which btw shows no respect of the law in the 1st place. Completely contradicts the whole pont that football fans aren't criminals. If you don't want to be harrassed by the coppers, just don't sing those 2 rebal songs that are seen as "offensive" in scotland. There's plenty of other rebal songs that they don't see as offesive songs. Even if it wasn't the GB that did it to those chairs that day, that's what the papers reported so that's what people are going to think
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What in the name of * are you talking about now?
Mr. Slippyfist, Dec 15, 2013

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goodybhoy said: ↑

So does smashing up seats in the section assigned to the GB! .. which btw shows no respect of the law in the 1st place. Completely contradicts the whole pont that football fans aren't criminals. If you don't want to be harrassed by the coppers, just don't sing those 2 rebal songs that are seen as "offensive" in scotland. There's plenty of other rebal songs that they don't see as offesive songs. Even if it wasn't the GB that did it to those chairs that day, that's what the papers reported so that's what people are going to think
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So the GB can't win in that case. They don't smash up chairs, but the press report it as it being them and everyone believes it anyway and that is their fault how?

As for being contradictory, your post is doing well. They are to blame, then they might not be, but their gonna get the blame anyway.

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goodybhoy said: ↑

So does smashing up seats in the section assigned to the GB! .. which btw shows no respect of the law in the 1st place. Completely contradicts the whole pont that football fans aren't criminals. If you don't want to be harrassed by the coppers, just don't sing those 2 rebal songs that are seen as "offensive" in scotland. There's plenty of other rebal songs that they don't see as offesive songs. Even if it wasn't the GB that did it to those chairs that day, that's what the papers reported so that's what people are going to think
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The very reason this legislation was opposed was the vagueness of 'offensiveness'.

As we have seen, with FoCus filming fans for singing Celtic songs, they are now considered these 'offensive'. If you think this about rebs your deluded.

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So the GB can't win in that case. They don't smash up chairs, but the press report it as it being them and everyone believes it anyway and that is their fault how?

As for being contradictory, your post is doing well. They are to blame, then they might not be, but their gonna get the blame anyway.
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That and people who weren't even at Fir Park being banned the whole thing is a whitewash

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I haven't felt this alienated from my club since the early 90's. The difference being then we were all in it together. We fought the club and we won.

Now people don't give a *. There are no rebels left to win anymore.
The club has abandoned the fans, but the fans didn't abandon the club when in it's darkest hour.
People are forgetting this. Pete Lawwell wouldn't have a * job with a £900k+ bonus if it wasn't for the people he is now trying to ostracise from Parkhead.

This is not about the Green Brigade solely. This is about our treatment as human * beings being treated like criminals. We do not sing sectarian songs. We do not rampage and destroy cities and stadiums. We do not discriminate, * salute or threaten people with death.
If you believe some of the nonces around here you would think we did.

The amount of total * who call themselves Celtic fans makes me ashamed to say i am one as well. * you. * your 'reputation'. Give me back my club.
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I don't see the big problem here. People are all getting too upset over being knocked out the champions league and the rest are angry the GB got seperated/suspended. That's what's going on right now. Its an utter riddy listening to some people, we were happy enough a couple of months ago to be qualified for the CL because people knew that we're in a transistion phase after selling players and bedding some in. It takes time. People are acting like all our players are duds. We have a bunch of new players and lennon is still trying to find the perfect mix (which I think he got against motherwell & hearts). We all knew this months ago and people generally thought we wouldn't be able to qualify but wur happy enough that we got our 15 million for getting into the group stages. Its all bad timing as we just got papped out the CL, our club has papped the GB oot, the club got a nasty fine recently which is also making things more tense.

In my mind, everyone is just over exagerating. Just bad timing all round imo

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Club has went to the dogs tbh, fans banned for doing nothing wrong, police running about with smirks on faces bullying people, stewards being *, aye we're defo not the same club, fans used to stick together not now. Ashamed of celtic and some of our fans who cant see what the PLC are doing.

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Are we falling apart?
In my opinion the answer is No........unless we let it

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What in the name of * are you talking about now?
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I'm talking about the 2 rebal songs, only 2 of them are seen as "offensive songs" in the eyes of the police. Heard that straight from a GB members mouth on a celtic podcast. Roll of hounor and I can't remember the 2nd one but its only 2 songs that they will jail you for. Soo when the people say that the board have some cheek playing the feilds of athenry and let the people sing. And that they are stripping this club of its irish roots. (Whopper) Well maybe they play those songs because in the eyes of the law they aren't "offensive" and they can't get done for them. People forget that celtic is a company aswell as a football club and they have to follow the same rules as us.

Do you guys honestly believe the board would come out and publicly support the fight against criminalization of football fans? No chance! And for people that are saying the booard are penny pinching etc also complete whoppers. Don't think people understand the league we are in and the lack of $ we get from winning the SPFL. Something like 1.5 million. Nothing basically! We usually have to sell a player every year just to pay wages and get by. Now were at a higher level where we have made it into the group stages 2 years in a row, people are saying sack the board, sack lennon. It embaressing!!

And people don't realise that if rangers get back into the SPFL, they will get investers and will spend big money. We will also get tv deals and the league would be sponsered with some decent money coming in. So this would explain why the board publicly state they want rangers back in the league. And the board spent more money last summer than we've spent in years so nothing adds up with what people are saying imo. just people all raging because of what I mentioned earlier.

So * up 3man !

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They were filming people today for singing Celtic songs. That not strike you as alarming?

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I can't believe that in the space of a few years we've went from the amazing scenes we saw against Motherwell in Neil Lennon's first season to what's happening at Celtic Park at the moment. Celtic Park should be a place where the supporters feel welcomed the most but instead the treatment many are experiencing is making them contemplate not going. The thought of Celtic becoming a plastic club is a horrible one but it would appear that's the board's wish. Also, the banner the club displays at the stadium which declares we are a club like no other is in grave contrast to the direction they appear to want to take us in.

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Mrs Browns Bhoys said: ↑

So the GB can't win in that case. They don't smash up chairs, but the press report it as it being them and everyone believes it anyway and that is their fault how?

As for being contradictory, your post is doing well. They are to blame, then they might not be, but their gonna get the blame anyway.
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Someone suggested that the GB wear some type of uniformed tops. Heard a guy on a celtic podcast the other night saying some clubs ultras do that in europe. Let's face it guys, the GB ideaoligy is very negative against the law and against the board. I honestly get it. Its shocking what the coppers are doing ... BUT people aren't exactly not giving them reasons to do so. All I know is there never used to be any of this flare * and the club getting in trouble all the time when I used to live there. If anyone denies the fact that it all emerged from the GB trying to keep up with the ultra culture .. well you my friend are a * tard! Only things I would see at games was a couple of fans fighting with eachother here and there. Never vandalizing chairs with "* the board" "* peter lawwell" on them, never saw away any seats getting destroyed.

I'm glad to see the GB are gone. I just hope a non political group opens up and takes over their job of displays and atmosphere. Because honestly, that's all we wanted from you all. Not 50 grrand fines and the seperation of fans. What good have the GB done apart from helping out with charities etc. I mean what have they done for our club? Pretty much everything they've done since the barca display has been contravesial.

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goodybhoy said: ↑

I'm talking about the 2 rebal songs, only 2 of them are seen as "offensive songs" in the eyes of the police. Heard that straight from a GB members mouth on a celtic podcast. Roll of hounor and I can't remember the 2nd one but its only 2 songs that they will jail you for. Soo when the people say that the board have some cheek playing the feilds of athenry and let the people sing. And that they are stripping this club of its irish roots. (Whopper) Well maybe they play those songs because in the eyes of the law they aren't "offensive" and they can't get done for them. People forget that celtic is a company aswell as a football club and they have to follow the same rules as us.

Do you guys honestly believe the board would come out and publicly support the fight against criminalization of football fans? No chance! And for people that are saying the booard are penny pinching etc also complete whoppers. Don't think people understand the league we are in and the lack of $ we get from winning the SPFL. Something like 1.5 million. Nothing basically! We usually have to sell a player every year just to pay wages and get by. Now were at a higher level where we have made it into the group stages 2 years in a row, people are saying sack the board, sack lennon. It embaressing!!

And people don't realise that if rangers get back into the SPFL, they will get investers and will spend big money. We will also get tv deals and the league would be sponsered with some decent money coming in. So this would explain why the board publicly state they want rangers back in the league. And the board spent more money last summer than we've spent in years so nothing adds up with what people are saying imo. just people all raging because of what I mentioned earlier.

So * up 3man !
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 No song was ever illegal, nobody is offended by the songs either, it’s the police that say they are offended, and nobody else complains about the songs ffs.
ROH is not sectarian, bigoted, racist etc
BOTOB was never illegal either written in 68 before the provos.
The eyes of the law, this is an agenda to kill the spirit of the support who want to sing these songs, they were never illegal like the huns song sheet and the government made this law up to ‘even things up’ it’s a dam disgrace, and the club said they would fully back any celtic fan being criminalized under this act, well the club have done * all as they are colluding with police Scotland.
As for the huns coming back, well they’ve never been so they cant come back, but * them we have our own very real battle, the battle for celtic.


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