Apathy in Our Support

spot on mate , ive been traveling over from ireland since the mid ninties and
followed the bhoys since i was a kid . this year i lost my job but still paid for
my season book. now though i have to choose carefully which games i go to.
the problem i have is that the board should have pushed on over the last couple of years , we should be the dominant force within scottish football. they didnt and it doesnt make you less of a supporter if you question the board now and again. it is a buisness they take a lot of hard earned cash off us , we are allowed to question the board . ill still go to as many games as possible
this season and hopefully keep on my ticket next season , but as a paying customer i reserve the right to ask questions of all involved with the club.

 

to be honest i don't know if it is the results only keeping people away i mean to pay £470 and go to the games then wath them struggle to win at home may keep people away , £470 is only my ticket price not sure about other area's but im not workin just now and i will be renewing my season ticket will be in poverty next year but i'll still be supportin the club all the way

HAIL HAIL

 

^^^^^ 200% great post^^^^^

Its a bug bearer of mines when you are branded a hun because you get upset and question management, players or the board when things arent going right.

As a paying customer, and a non mug, i reserve the right to just like yourself bud!

because at the end of the day, you have to remember, as a fan, no matter what you feel say or do, you will always love the club more than any most managers, players and board members.

So if you want to vote with your feet or voice, do it, you have more than earned the right too.

 

^^^This is so true^^^

also i have to say this about strachans time at the club

when strachan was appointed he had a good squad of players he repeatedly said he was a coach not a manager and that he would try to make the players better while hopefully bringing through some yougsters
What happened then is year after year we let go of our better Class players and signed a lower class of player and the performances and results then dipped.

I dont blame Strachan for this, i blame the board for being greedy disrespectful * that thought they could have a succesful Celtic squad playing for peanuts (in relative terms for a Celtic footballer) all while charging us a fortune to watch them.

Ohh and that John Reid can get tae * aswell

 

There is a complete difference between the protest that saved our club and fans not turning up now because as they've said themselves they can't be bothered or we aren't playing well.

We were being ran into the ground and were dangerously close to extinction, that is why the protests where so necessary, we are not in that situation now so it's entirely different set of circumstances.

If people don't go to the games because the can't afford it then that is entirely understandable, however, if people don't go to the games because either they can't be bothered or because we aren't winning then that's the type of fans I'd happily do without.

 

Does anyone know what the crack is with the season books next year ???

To be perfectly honest, freezing the prices wouldnt be good enough in my book, im paying £600 + for the home games alone, thats without traveling, pie and a pint etc...

Since Larsson, I would say we have only had 2 players who you could maybe put in the same bracket, maybe Bellamy and Keane, but the board are spinning us a whopper with these 5 month loan deals.

the thing that the board have to realise is, if we cannot attract the type of player of Larsson to Scotland anymore, no matter what we offer, then they need to realise that the product they are selling have vastly weakened. Prices need to come down.

Along with the fact that we cannot attract these players, we are watching teams come to parkhead like St mirren for example, a team not much better than some junior sides. The enviroment we are playing in is also a factor as to why we cant attract big names to come to Scotland.

Im just royaly pee'd off at paying premiership prices and watching English 1st and 2nd division level football. It doesnt add up.

And the fact that we cannot beat a side over 2 seasons who havent spent any money in this time frame says it all to be honest.

At the moment, i can see this being my last season at Celtic park, I also have family and friends, who have run buses to home and away games who fel the same, who i would say would be seen as the most loyal fans i know, but even these guys are at the end of their tether.

 

But this is your opinion and you are entitled to it, but you are not entirely correct here.
Its not the same as it was in the past, people are not waking up on a sat or sun morning nowadays, excited about the game. people are generally waking up and in 2 minds wether to make the trip to Celtic park, as the same old nonsense is being served up.

Folk are now finding more constructive things to do with their weekend, rather than go sit in the freezing cold, * rain, watch guys like Billy mehemt etc... run about Celtic park like headless chickens, and thats not to mention some of our guys.

i may get slated for this post, but Im telling you its 100% the truth in some quarters, and dont kid yourself on that you are more of a Celtic supporter becasue you choose to go to Celtic park when others choose not too.

Its all about lifestyles and people finding more comfortable, far cheaper options to fill their days.

may sound sad, but its true for some folk.

 

I've never once stated that I think I'm a better supporter for going, I don't think there is any such thing as a better supporter, you either support us or you don't.

When the decision not to go is because of financial or family commitments then I think that's totally understandable, my only gripe are with those fans that simply can't be bothered because we are not winning.

I've had to cut down on the amount of games I go to this season so I know only too well that fans can't afford the prices we pay, however, I don't see the point in only going when we are winning if I can afford to go when we are also losing.

I hate the long journey home after more dropped points but it won't stop me going to the next game I can afford to go because for me going to the football means more than just the result.

The board have made plenty of mistakes, one of which is the price we have to pay to watch Celtic but everyone has to make up their own mind whether they can afford/justify paying that price. The only supporters I don't understand are those that have a season ticket, have practically no travel expenses but yet don't turn up because they can't be bothered.

 

im not talking about if we are winning or losing.

If we were 10 points clear in the league just now, there are still people who think we are being served up nonsense, and would think twice about going on the morning of a game.

Dont put this down to us losing points and trailing in the league.

this is a bigger problem that just being 10 points behind...

 

difficult

You wont be blamed, I dont castigate Celtic fans for not going, they are part of us which might in the end help our dire situation, to call other fans not true fans is stupid,you are part of our familay and we have all got problems in these difficult times.

 

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It was that * board who did not give wgs the money last jan to get us the league now it is panic stations, just look at the figures,plus it will be far worse in the next six months, so in the end up it could turn into a slipper slide if this is not corrected, diff times now internet for one.

 

^^^^^ True is That ^^^^^

 

your wrong there m8, that board was ousted!!! this is a new bunch of * weve got *

but ffs have you seen the news today!!! the police's flying spycam drone has been banned no not because this is not a WARZONE but because it breaks civil aviation Laws

If anyone was Unconvinced we are becoming a Big Brother State surely their not anymore

 

I believe the real reason we’re even discussing this subject is due to a board that regards the Celtic support as no more than a source of money, who know full well when needed they will always answer the call to rally round. Rangers should have been dead and buried a few years but due to this board being a shower of tight fisted bstrds who want to do everything on the cheap while charging top money to watch it. They ( Lawwell ) have removed anybody ( best players )who was earning over a certain sum and replaced them with mediocre *, year after year, season after season the standards of our players goes down and down, where will it end. Teams like St Mirren, Hamilton etc who a few years ago would have been absolutely delighted to leave Celtic Park with only a 2-0/3-0 defeat now visit believing they can actually win here or at least earn a draw,,,,,,,,,, no one’s afraid of coming there anymore. Does anybody believe this present squad ( minus Robbie and Kamera ) will win the spl next season ?, or are we going to have to endure another * rangers team do 3 in a row !.................. I suspect that’s what’s really * of a lot of supporters, knowing this should never have been allowed to happen.

 

I agree the board were wrong not to invest last January, however, it's not comparable to the shambles of the early 90's, that's why the two situations are totally different.

The lack of investment has cost us dearly but that was over 12 months ago and they haven't made the same mistake this year. You can argue that we didn't make the right investments, however, you can't argue that we haven't invested.

As I've said the board have made a lot of mistakes and are by no means perfect, however, I do believe that Peter Lawwell is the right man for the job so there is no need to oust the board.

IMO staying away because you can't be bothered hurts the club more than helps it.

 

Not investing at the right time, hurts the club more than it helps.

If you argue that we didnt make the right investments, then you would be blaming Tony Mowbury, although I feel we should have heavily invested in the summer, its a known fact that you never get value for money in Jan.

Have we spent on the side in Jan, heavily anyway ??????????? Im not so sure, when you add up the inns and outs. Who have we got permanently and who will we lose in may, and who have we got in 1st team players, who will be competing for a for a 1st team place ??? Rassmussen, hoovfield, Ki, Fortune !!!!

the rest are loans, who are by no means dstined to stay in the spl, and while doing this, getting game time and putting themselves in the shop window.

Dont be complety fooled by this board either, theyre marketting ploys at times are 1st class.

but are we back to sq 1 in may/june with the side and mogga?

 

sometimes thats the only way the board will listen though, if enough people stop going to the games

 

Of course it does but we can't change what's happened in the past

Partly TM, partly the board however I haven't decided if the invesments were the wrong ones or not, I'll wait until the end of the season before making that judgement.

Including wages then yes we have invested, I'm a little concerned that 4 of our starting 11 are only on loan but like above I'll wait to see what happens before judging the validity of that decision.

I'm not easily fooled by marketing ploys, I've read and understood the financial statements over the past number of years so I tend to look at the long term picture.

I'm not happy with how this season has panned out so far, there are a lot of things that need to improve but I'm willing to wait and see if those improvements are forthcoming throughout the rest of this season and in the summer. The team needs to improve, the board need to improve and imo the fans need to improve.

 

If people stop going to matches and their sole reason for not going is that we're not top of the league then I stand by what I said. * them. That's not supporting your team that's glory hunting.

 

These are tough financial times for everybody. No fair minded person would judge you or think you're less of a fan if you're not going to matches for financial reasons. I certainly wouldn't anyway.