Ange Postecoglou

69% possession? (insert Jonathan Watson as Frank Macavennie raising eyebrow to camera gif here)

 

Somehow I got the feeling many people here wouldn’t have blown their brain spark if we had lost 2-0 instead of 4-3.

 

Pre-match: " Depleted squad, injuries to key players, new players coming in, little time to gel, we gonna get spanked, i'd take a draw...."

Result 4-3 loss, up 0-2.

Post-match: " We really should be beating the likes of Betis away. Sack the coach."

LOL.

 

Some real mental gymnastics going on here - it’s like as of people can’t remember what they said 2 hours earlier.

 

Stop talking *, no one has said he should be sacked.

 

haha.

The squad Celtic put out there is nowhere near good enough to be putting 3 goals past Betis away (or any other top 5 Euro league team for that matter). It just isn't. Yet they did. That's the value-add the manager brings A couple of individual defensive mistakes is all takes at that level. Betis took them because they have the quality players to do that.

 

ah no not *today*...but as soon as the next away loss, I think the consensus is.

 

No, it won't be.

Any Celtic manager who continues to lose games will face pressure but having said that, it's pretty obvious that Postecoglou has a bit of a free pass in Europe this year, considering how depleted the squad was when he arrived. He's still very much in a grace period.

I didn't see the game tonight because I had other priorities, and I was expecting defeat too, but it is disappointing to hear and read that we conceded silly goals again.

 

The first one there were 4 Celtic players doing a bang-on impression of 4 traffic cones.

Then there's a goal where two Celtic defenders about 1 meter apart allow the striker to get between them.

The Betis goal that goes in off the inside of the post is a shot that finds its way past about half the Celtic team with the one closest to the strike moving in the opposite direction to the strike to open path for the ball.

That's how the goals were scored.

These are player execution issues, not managerial issues.

 

I've since watched the goals and that's just not true. It's the manager who instructs players to play the offside trap and it's the manager who coaches the defence on their shape and positioning.

 

How much coaching as this backline had in recent times with Ralston out sick, Taylor out needed surgery, CCV just in the door, Scales not even making an appearance, Etc?

Perspective, not emotional irrationality.

 

You can make excuses as much as you want, the manager carries responsibility for results.

Attempting to paint me as emotionally irrational is embarrassing. lol

 

" is this some that he said she said Bullshit "

* aussies

 

Got the attacking bang on , let's see how we defend now...

 

Blaming the manager for the defensive problems while overlooking all the issues and context after we lost 4-3 in Europe is reacting with emotional irrationality.

it’s like listening to Anglo “edge lords” like Paul Joseph Watson saying “if socialism is so good, why is there no medicine in Venezuela” whilst overlooking and not mentioning the sanctions, coup attempts etc.

Don’t think like a reactionary, and I know that’s difficult when you’re stuck on an island full of them, but acknowledge ALL the problems and issues at hand and don’t just lazily confine it simply down to the manager.

 

Then go and watch them again. If the players made any attempt it was a half arsed.

As for shape and positioning I can position a set of traffic cones into a defensive shape and quite likely do as well.

 

So it’s Ange’s doing that we scored 3 goals but not his doing that we lost 4?

I thought we were past this hero worship? Obviously not.

The way the manager sets up means we are always going to score goals, it also means we are going to lose goals. Both those scenarios are on the manager. He has to learn to manage the game better when we get a lead.

I joked pre match that we were going to blow them away first 30 minutes then take off all the attacking players for defensive players as that’s all we had on the bench. We would then watch Ange prove us wrong by showing pragmatism for an hour and see the game out.

Obviously I was joking but I wonder if we had even got to HT at 2-1 if Ange would have changed his approach? I’m going to guess not. That is a real blind spot for him.

 

Lol, what utter * waffle.

The manager is part of the blame, he shares the responsibility as it's his team and he gives the players their instructions, gives them their match preparation and coaches them. It's that simple.

Don't try to condescend, you're not good at it.