Ange Postecoglou

Just wear the tie at home?

Where's the fun and prestige in that?

 

Was just thinking earlier...with Eddy on his way out. Klimala and Bayo gone. And Griffiths a nonce.

It was pretty shrewd of Ange to hand Ajeti the captains armband for the first friendly. What a way to get your only guaranteed striker on board with a huge confidence boost.

We're all just pawns to a chess master like Ange

 

At what point will Postecoglou come out and have a pop at the board? We are now very close to our first competitive game of the season, and the league campaign is also in the near future, yet we still haven't signed anyone of note. The Aussie guys on here were absolutely adamant that he is not a yes man, but it appears he is not being backed, and the only man that will be made to look stupid if things go wrong will be Postecoglou.

 

To suggest "best" is finishing second is to suggest that 1st place is not even an option and that we would also possibly be 3rd or worse, that the "best" is to get second to suggest that is a struggle.

That's a defeatist attitude and honestly, everything else aside, if that is the level of ambition some folk have before a ball is kicked in a season, then you guys are completely in the wrong place/club here.

 

He’s already had a few pops and I expect more to come. Ange will still back himself to get results, irrespective of the boards support. He’ll walk at the end of the season because he won’t let the team down. He will support them through this season. That’s just his way. He’s so * loyal to his team and philosophy. He’ll see out the season and be gone.

 

Exactly what the board want in our manager then. Someone who will not speak up. In other words, a yes man. He needs backed or it will be Postecoglou that is made to look stupid, especially if he doesn't let his feelings known if he isn't getting financially supported. Our squad we have right now, which will be weakened dramatically when Ajer and Edouard go, isn't good enough to win the league in my opinion. If we don't win the league, Postecoglou will go down as a failure, that's the nature of the beast when you manage Celtic.

 

Can almost guarantee if he came out and said I need signings, I’m not getting the support I was promised, the fans would be right behind him. He won’t do that though

 

The confusing part for me about the 'yes man' debate is the assumption that it makes a difference either way.

Even if he's knocking on the door to ask this or demand that every day, they can just say no. He's a brand new manager, the fans don't know him, the players don't know him, he's no staff there of his own.

Did you ever get the impression before his second run that Lennon was a yes man? How about Rodgers? They were all better positioned than Ange to influence the board and it didn't seem to make a great deal of difference.

 

This is exactly what needs to happen imo, call the * out and as you say we would be right behind him if that was the case.

 

* me it’s a broken record with some of you. I guarantee you Ange is already telling the board his displeasure. Does it mean he’s a yes man if he’ll ride out the season, backing his philosophy? Just ridiculous to think so. And Ange is probably like no manager you’ve had. Maybe it’s the Aussie in him. You don’t * give up. You give it a crack. You don’t let your mates down. You don’t let your team down. Ange won’t be the failure, the board will be.

 

Lennon certainly wasn't better position to not be a 'Yes man'. The man was finished in serious football management after 5 years of failure at Bolton and Hibs. He was perfectly placed to be a classic 'Yes man' and he still has his head up Desmond's * to this day. Also, very few wanted him back here as manager.

Rodgers clearly pushed back quite well, even allegedly refusing to deal with Lawwell from day one. Only when Desmond lost interest did it start to go * up, and of course Rodgers walked soon after (not to defend him, mind).

Ange, to my mind, isn't a deliberate 'Yes man'. He's been brought in because his style makes him suited for board interference. I would imagine in past jobs, particularly in different football cultures, this hasn't been an issue for him. But here, especially with this board, it's not going to work out.

'Yes man' isn't an attack on Ange and it wasn't an attack on Deila IMO. They're in a difficult position and honestly too many of the support ignore the problems with the board. If Ange left tomorrow citing an unreasonable board, half this forum would blame Ange and say he needed to give them more time. That's the issue for me.

If we don't bring in players soon then there should be protests aimed directly at the board for not supporting Ange. The reality is too many of the support have forgotten how incompetent the board are and are willing to give them more time, and of course when it goes * up just go back to forgetting all over again.

All the talk of a DOF, revamped recruitment etc. has been completely patched since the support have the memory of a goldfish.

 

OziBM didn't say he wouldn't be trying to win the league.

Everything the board does to let him down will be hardening his resolve to succeed.

That's my fear - winning despite a lack of support - is something he's done before.

Then he walked.

 

Casually throwing " And Griffiths a nonce" in there

 

It’s a broken record with some of us because we have gotten fed up with the board and the way they operate. We haven’t only followed Celtic for a few weeks because of a manager being appointed. We have followed Celtic our whole lives, and have spent vast sums of money through season tickets and merchandise, and it seems like yet again we are getting sold short.

If he sees the season out without any backing I would say that is exactly what a yes man would do. The rebuild we need is scary. He will know this by now as well if he didn’t already. See all this about don’t give up, and we won’t have had a manager like him. No disrespect mate, but it’s birthday card nonsense. If the man isn’t getting backed, which it appears he isn’t, he should make his feelings known.

That’s why I didn’t slaughter Rodgers for leaving us when he did. Yes it hurt massively, but he felt like he wasn’t being backed, so he jumped ship without a second thought, because he felt no loyalty to the board in my opinion.

 

A lot of that sounds like Lennon last season....

 

This is the point I think. The expectations of many seem to be that he should be cracking heads in the boardroom but he's literally just been hired and has presumably agreed to work within the parameters the board have set. He is brand new, a relative unknown, and has no clout at the club, he's not going to change the entire way it works overnight. If being a yes man means he makes his opinion known but tries to cooperate with the board, then that's what he's going to be for the timebeing, because he's not in a position to do much else.

 

Staying on season after season without a bleat is what a yes man would do.

Seriously, no-one has any idea what Ange is saying to the board, but there's no way at this early stage (if ever) he'll try to play diplomacy by media.

Can we just * off this yes man *? You wouldn't have a clue about his negotiations with the board so give up with the negative speculation.

 

But we do know how this board operates, and all the hallmarks are that the same * of the last 18 years is playing out this summer as well.

 

It doesn’t appear any different to when Deila was in charge. I didn’t expect it to be either mind you. 7 days away from a crucial CL qualifier and we have signed nobody who is ready for the first team. That’s not speculation, that’s a fact.

 

But you don’t know how Ange operates however you all continually call him a yes man. It’s * tiresome hearing this *. I think you all have PTSD.