Ange Postecoglou

It wasn't as bad as what's currently happening at Spurs, but it's the same kind of thing.

Postecoglou literally said during his time with us that all of the injuries we were suffering was a by-product of the team we wanted to be. We had about 5 or.6 players all out at the same time with muscle injuries. Similar to what a bunch of those Spurs boys are out with.

Sure, could argue that in the end it all worked out in the end because we were still getting results. But he's not getting those with Spurs, and that league position is pretty disgraceful tbh.

 

No it didn't. We had an injury crisis but nothing like this. Just shows you aren't listening to what he's saying, as you don't realize how crazy the injury situation is for them.

 

To be honest I don't just take every manager I listen to at face value. Even ones who succeeded here.

He said at the time he was here that the number of injuries were a by-product of the team we're trying to be. It's similar at Spurs with all of the muscle injuries they have. Hamstrings all going and calf injuries.

He clearly wants a pass and he doesn't deserve it for what's been a shambolic season.

 

It was nothing like as serious. Also, that was his first season as well when players were adjusting. This is his second season with Spurs and they didn't have anything like this last season. He's been a manager for a very long time and as far as I know, never faced anything like this ever before. That suggests it's not actually his training methods.
To call this league position a disgrace requires ignoring the challenges that he's faced. As he said, any team in this position would struggle.

 

It is a disgrace. Again, it's not as if he has League One standard players in his dressing room. Let's not forget the Tamworth nonsense either.

 

You don't think he deserves a pass with all those injuries? I can't think of another manager that would have Spurs doing well under the circumstances.

 

Mate you aren't listening to him. You are massively underestimating the injury situation. It's not a disgrace and it's nothing like the injury situation he had with us. You're being incredibly unfair to him.

 

Nah not for me mate. I don't think he's blameless in this whatsoever. There are results that you can kind of shake off given the standard of opposition - Villa, Liverpool, Arsenal etc.

But then you have the performances against Everton, Leicester, Tamworth, Wolves, Ipswich, Rangers. Of their last 21 games he's won 7. Personally think it's been a brutal return.

Put it this way, if we had that number of injuries and we were getting beat at home to Aberdeen, Hibs, Dundee Utd - we'd be saying it's not on. He doesn't get a pass for them being 14th, even though he's clearly itching for one.

 

got a couple of Spurs mates who haven't mentioned wanting him sacked at all. They've literally placed all the blame on Levy. They've been annoyed with a few results but they have said when they're playing well it's the most enjoyable experience they have had watching Spurs. Bar the champions league final run etc and the Poch era in general.
Think the main consensus of Spurs fans is their sick of sacking managers and the blame is at the top.

 

He should be looking at his training methods and we did have alot of injuries under him. Spurs fans have been saying it as well

 

Remember a time Liverpool to their standards were struggling something horrendous and went about signing any CB they could get their hands on to handle their injury issues and that period I don't think was as pronounced as the wider issues at Spurs.

Jeez, there has been times here at Celtic, despite his polarising fan opinion, we've cried how a single player in Hatate being out has been incredibly detrimental to the pace and urgency of our play in midfield and getting balls forward to feed strikers.

1 player in CM.

Spurs are missing almost their entire defence and their midfield with the only constant being Son.

You are going to see a poor run of form when a midfielder who's barely turned 18 becoming the head of your defence as well as other players brought in clearly earmarked for the future ad prospects, also becoming mainstays in the 11

 

The way he is being treated is beyond disgusting....especially from the stands and maybe a wake up call to players and managers going down south.

Its the reason why i don't think Rodgers will go back down.....Hes been at Liverpool and Leicester so he has experienced the so called glamour down their but basically won nothing whereas up here you are given Europe as a pedestal near every season a club that's fans love you and basically trophy after trophy.

 

We actually never, i'd say we were really injury free under Ange apart from his first few months when Taylor, Giakoumakis, Jota and Kyogo were out a lot, Kyogo and Jota with long spells and Kyogo one or two short spells and Giakoumakis and Taylor had long injuries.

But other than that we went 18 months without anyone really being injured.

Rodgers had the same injuries when he came in where it was CCV, Nawrocki, Lagerbielke, Abada and Hatate who were out most of the first 4-5 months but then the same happened with Rodgers were since then we've been mostly fine.

The Spurs injury situation i'd say is actually unheard of, i've never seen the likes of it before.

Where for about 3 months half their team and half their subs have been injured constantly. Thats meant half their subs are in the team and then they have a weakened team and no subs for months.

The equivalent of us having Spurs type injuries would probably be...

Vicario - Schmeichel
Forster - Sinisalo
Romero - Trusty
Van de Ven - CCV
Dragusin - Welsh
Davies - Scales
Udogie - Taylor
Bentancur - McGregor
Bissouma - Bernardo
Johnson - Kuhn
Maddison - Hatate
Odobert - Yang
Werner - Forrest
Richarlison - Maeda
Solanke - Idah

All of these guys have probably missed between 5-15 games over the last 3 months.

Imagine us from now to May having mostly this XI available to us

Bain
Johnston Murray Nawrocki Ralston
Engels
McCowan Turley
Jota Kenny Schlupp
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We'd be in big trouble. Especially when our subs would only be like Frame, Ure, Cummings

 

Nah I'm not buying that. We had plenty of injuries in his second season as well. McGregor was out for months with his knee. Starfelt out with months with his knee. CCV had a muscle injury then played with an injured knee that he needed surgery on. Alistair Johnston injured his ankle at the end of the season and needed an op cos Ange rushed him back for the final. Jota was out twice with muscle injuries. Hatate was out for months with a hamstring injury. Even Kyogo missed random games with his shoulder. We had to play Hatate at rightback over Christmas because JJ was injured. Abada was out for months with a muscle injury.

It might not be the same scale as Spurs but we don't play in the EPL.

Ange also had hunners of injuries last season at Spurs as well. It's a not a coincidence

 

Hope he gets into next season with a fit squad. Heard on the media that he feels he’s getting picked on by the media down there. To be fair he seems to be getting it tight despite the injuries whereas the Man Utd manager doesn’t seem to get much stick and he’s doing worse than Ten Haag

 

Thats normal injuries though, spread out, most of your squad always available. Happens every other season and is pretty normal.

The current Spurs situation is unheard of, it's never happened in 99.9% of clubs' history.

Vicario
Spence Romero Van de Ven Udogie
Bentancur
Bissouma Maddison
Johnson Solanke Werner

They played a game recently think it was the Europa League game with all them missing, how often has any club been missing a better starting XI than the one they have left it's got to be like once a 150 year type scenario. In that it will probably happen at some point but even at this point it's probably barely ever happened to any clubs.

 

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