Ange Postecoglou

The table doesn’t lie really. Most defeats at this stage of the season in the past 15 or so year. Continually making the same mistakes over and over in games. Aye they’ve had a huge amount of injuries, but if you are too stubborn to change your system to try and protect the makeshift defence, you deserve all you get really. It’s mental. They have got a goal difference that is 25 goals better than West Ham, but they are 2 points behind them. I’m amazed he is still in a job to be honest, because Spurs managers are usually sacked for far less. They couldn’t beat a pub team over 90 minutes.

 

In all fairness, Guardiola has won Man City multiple PL titles and a CL title. He deserves the benefit of the doubt. City will probably turn it around sooner rather than later.

Spurs has issues deeper than Ange, he’s not the main problem here. But at the same time Ange is starting to look like a defeated man, and perhaps he’s not the man to turn it around for the better. Not a very bold call of me to make, but I don’t think he’ll be managing Spurs next season.

 

*. What’s your point? To use that argument then. How’s Nottingham Forest getting on with a lesser budget than Spurs? It’s irrelevant. We’re talking about Spurs and Ange. So not sure why you are waffling on about Man City and Guardiola. How are Spurs doing? The answer to that is *.

Getting taken to extra time by a pub team is a riddy. As I said the other day, it would be like us being taken to extra time by Linlithgow Rose. We would get absolutely slaughtered for it, and rightly so. That’s not a narrative, it’s simply pointing out the reality of it.

 

It’s clearly not working out as he’d have hoped, and I think he’d be the first to admit as much.

I’ve not real interest in whether he’s sacked or not, as I couldn’t care less about Spurs, and I’m confident he’d be successful elsewhere, and be back in work quickly if he wanted to be.

Truthfully though, managers get sacked in the Premier League for far less. Yes Spurs defeats need some context, but he’s underdelivering even with that context, imo.

 

That only strengthens Paul's point IMHO. That's the Nottingham Forest currently managed by a manager that failed spectacularly (and lasted a lot less long than Ange!) at Tottenham a couple of years ago, right?

 

There’s been quite a few highly rated managers done * all at Spurs the last 20 years. Think it was the wrong club for him to build a reputation at. Heard a few comments from English media about them being sick of his attitude and moaning about stuff. Was really gutted when he left and angry to be honest, but do feel bit sorry for him now. Suppose the riches he’ll have earned will cushion his pain though.

 

Lots of things will be hurting him right now; but what the English media think of his "attitude" won't be one of them. I bet he could care less what they think TBH. Other coaches, players, even fans, he'll care; but not the media.

 

Nah don’t think he will care about the media either, meant hurt by failure. In saying that when the media start sharpening their knives for you down there you are usually done.

 

It doesn’t really. It’s irrelevant in all honesty because some managers just suit certain teams more than others. How Guardiola or NES are doing in their current jobs matter not one iota when it comes to how Ange is doing with Spurs. The fact is that Spurs have lost more games at this stage of the season than they have done since 2009 I’m sure I heard. So if NES failed spectacularly at Spurs, what’s Ange doing this season? He will be out on his * shortly. I’m amazed he isn’t already.

 

Did NES have the same injury crisis that Ange is going through at the moment?

Personally, I think it is relevant. On the one hand, you have a manager who has won stuff everywhere he's been; on the other hand, you have a club that never wins anything and where real winners like Conte and Mourinho have failed. Is Ange the problem or is it Spurs?

And then your very example of a guy doing better than Ange on a smaller budget is actually another coach who failed spectacularly at Spurs! I think that is relevant, because it's more evidence that it's the latter.

 

Tis a good point there! (Said in a stereotypical Irish accent!)