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ALL WGS FAULT AGAIN

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  1. patto

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    Only fault i had with him today was he should have played McGeady from the start. Maloney checks back too much and puts in poor crosses where as Aiden tends to get to the byline. I thought we played well we were just missing Scott Brown.
     
  2. OC

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    That's true, but we should all accept the fact that we are playing mediocre, as many here would say. We need changes, and the problem isn't in coaching staff.
     
  3. Just Kieran Gold Member Gold Member

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    I think we have got worse every year. The achievements in Europe were remarkable, but the 3 in a row was against such a poor Rangers team - although you have to say we won it so credit for that.

    But things have got stale and if we are going to spend money i just dont have confidence in him to be the man to do it
     
  4. paulmitchell

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    Spot on mate.:50: I like Strachan and appreciate everything he's done for Celtic but like Kieran said, things are stale, a change wouldnt be such a bad thing in the summer.
     
  5. Just Kieran Gold Member Gold Member

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    The coaching staff

    a) brought the vast majority of the players in
    b) they pick which ones play

    They are at the very least part of the problem
     
  6. OC

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    As I said, I have confidence in WGS. Either way, sacking Strachan would be generally a bad idea because someone else would do the same things as him, including transfer policy.
     
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    it's too easy to just have a go at GS all of the time, the board in my opinion are worse off in my book.

    i'm not saying GS should not escape criticism, as he is the manager. but not all of the time which he seems to get.

    mcgeady should've started today, but that's just my opinion, not a criticism.
     
  8. Just Kieran Gold Member Gold Member

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    I respect your loyalty to the manager, but i think a new manager would have a different approach to Strachan.

    I mentioned before how i think things have gone stale. What i mean is, the style is a bit dull, a bit predictable. Theres little or no variation in the team.

    What can he do to take us further? Is he going to play a different way? No. I cant see it getting better.

    I would be perfectly happy for him to prove me wrong, i dont dislike him at all.
     
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    Bringing in another manager would be stupid. We've gelled quite a good side together who lack consistency. We have a good core of players such as Caldwell, Brown, McDonald, McGeady, Naka, Maloney, Crosas. We need to bring in 4 or 5 players that at least the same level in other areas or better. Bringing in another manager who will have other ideas might not be wise.
     
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    i dont blame wgs. i blame the board for not giving us money and we could of killed this league long ago. however, regardless of where the championship goes i think there will be new managers on both sides of the old firm next year.
     
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    Listen * the last 3 years and deal with whats happening now ,Tell me whats else could have Gs done today apart from himself and lennon going on to join that team .

    They ran that game from start to finish ,the only time i was disa pointed was when i didnt se McCourts name on the players list ,Boruc was centre forward for 2 mins ,so how is it all down to GS again ,

    He put out what he thought was his strongest team and we actually had a great bench aswell ,Maloney didnt work out ,Mcgeady came on ,GS done evrything he could today but it never happened for him or us ,* happens accept it .

    When was the last time you ever seen an old firm game like that ,dominated from start to finish by one team ,Celtics problem lies with the forwards excluding McDonald ,JVOH is a lazy man ,aye he had 2 headers on goal but done * all else ,so he gets pulled ,next striker on the pecking order ,Samaras come s on ,does * all .who"s fault is this ,he can only pick what he has in front of him .btw Rangers are pish,it was proven how pish they actually are today .
     
  12. Just Kieran Gold Member Gold Member

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    KD, the players you are criticising are players WGS bought. He played Maloney (3 minutes in 4 months) ahead of McGeady. He is looking to give JVoH a new deal is he?

    Thats why he has to take some of the blame.
     
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    It is predictable, yes, but we still manage to go with it. Strachan forces the same 15-16 players and we still manage to win many games. Style of play is monotonic, but I'm sure that Strachan will make a right move in the summer and bring someone who will lighten things up. I'm not saying that I'm happy with minimal wins and poor play, far from that, but he's a smart guy, he'll figure out what is wrong (Caldwell isn't midfielder, JVOH isn't striker etc.). Fans will pressure him to do better and he can amaze us next season.
     
  14. kennydal

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    Point taken ,but im not talking about deals ,im dealing with what he had in front of him today ,what else could he have done :50:
     
  15. Just Kieran Gold Member Gold Member

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    I hope you're right mate i really do, but i cant see it. He could have done the same for this year but didnt.

    And we shouldnt have to just 'manage' wins. Especially in the SPL.
     
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    Agreed KD.

    I remember saying to my dad at 65th minute.

    "Rangers are playing like its the 90th minute"

    We proved today that we are a much better side, Rangers got all the luck IE;

    Brown suspension, ref gave them all the 50/50's, header off the line, and miller actually assisted well (which is luck as hes *)
     
  17. Just Kieran Gold Member Gold Member

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    Yeah i see where you're coming from. Personally, i wouldnt have played JVoH at all. He is so easy to defend against because he is so immobile. David Weir can keep up with him haha.

    I may well have played Maloney, but not out wide. Its a difficult shift out there so i would have had him tucked in behind McDonald with McGeady on the left.

    That would have given us an agile, creative forward line to go up against Rangers comparitavely immobile back four.
     
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    things wee gordon might have said
    "No way will hitler i nvade Poland he is not that daft"
    "dont talk * theyll never put a man on the moon"
    "im telling you that Berlin Wall is here to stay"
    "i think i will drop Aiden for Maloney wee shaun will terrorise them":icon_mrgreen:
    Just trying to lighten the mood lads.
     
  19. kennydal

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    Cheers i would have maybe went down that line aswell ,no regarding the deals i hope JVOH and Samaras are not there next season ,there no pace up front which is sadly there downfall.
     
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